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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Amazing how anti-cyclist the mood seems. It almost makes me want to buy another bike, just to piss everybody off!

    Mind you, I can be just as annoying on my motorbike.
    Far from anti-cyclist, I have a push bike myself, but as Macca says it's the dressing up that's the giveaway .. the message to cyclists is the same as to idiot drivers: the public highway is not a racetrack and treating it as such should be punishable by law.

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    In reality, as road users, cyclists have very little impact on most folk's everyday life.

    Take a drive round the M25 in a rainy rush hour and see if the antics of HGV artic drivers and of course white van man bother you less than cyclists do.

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    Cyclists are not allowed on the motorwayso that's not really an argument.

    The problem is they are too slow, so they cause tailbacks and put drivers in a position where they need to cross the white line to overtake them.


    I'd suggest that the pavements could be designated as cycle lanes between 0700 and 0900 and again between 1700 and 1800. So anyone cycling to and from work is not holding up traffic at the busiest time of the day and is also safe from being run over by that traffic. Obviously they should show due care to pedestrians, and the pedestrians would have to be more aware during those hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    The problem is they are too slow, so they cause tailbacks and put drivers in a position where they need to cross the white line to overtake them
    Try telling that to the old biddies that drive their mobility scooters along the roads. There are a few around here causing all sorts of problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    In reality, as road users, cyclists have very little impact on most folk's everyday life.

    Take a drive round the M25 in a rainy rush hour and see if the antics of HGV artic drivers and of course white van man bother you less than cyclists do.
    Well out here in/on the edge of the countryside on summer evenings and and weekends the roads are chokka with gangs of would-be racers all working on their personal best and damned dangerous it is too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I'd suggest that the pavements could be designated as cycle lanes between 0700 and 0900 and again between 1700 and 1800. So anyone cycling to and from work is not holding up traffic at the busiest time of the day and is also safe from being run over by that traffic. Obviously they should show due care to pedestrians, and the pedestrians would have to be more aware during those hours.
    No mate, the pavements are already being used by motorists to park at least half of their car on, thus forcing people with prams and mobility scooters onto the roads!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Co View Post
    No mate, the pavements are already being used by motorists to park at least half of their car on, thus forcing people with prams and mobility scooters onto the roads!
    Don't get that round here. Not yet anyway. There are a lot of steep hills round here though and I've seen plenty of cyclists toiling up them with a long line of cars behind them. No way to overtake as there is a constant stream of traffic coming the other way. And the cyclist can't pull over to let them pass because the road to his left is lined with parked cars. Under my proposal he could have just legally ridden up the hill on the pavement and caused no bother.
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    Theres a lot of misconceptions re rules of cycling both by motorists and police. And cyclists
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Don't get that round here. Not yet anyway.
    Nor here.... The lack of parking spaces is symptomatic of life 'darn sarf'. I was watching a programme the other day, called 'Parking Wars', or some such, and some of the antics folk are forced to get up to, in southerly locations in the UK, simply trying to park their cars when going shopping, was both rather amusing and incredible/shocking...

    One couple, from London, spent over an HOUR, going round and round, trying to find a parking place! They eventually found one, but I just don't know how anyone could be bothered. I'd have given up after 10 mins and taken the tube!!

    Round here you can park pretty much where you want at any time of the day, and that sort of freedom is worth its weight in gold

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    It can be tough here because there is no off road parking and there are resident's parking zones - which you have to pay an annual fee for but which don't guarantee you a parking space.


    But as was pointed out in the article I linked to in the 'Paving Paradise' thread, if you allocated enough parking spaces so that people could park anywhere all the time, there would be no space left to put anything else. At least not in the UK and definitely not in London/South East.

    The problem is that as usual nothing is ever thought through. Take the hospitals - they close all the old, small ones and build mega hospitals that serve the entire city. 10,000 staff, 15000 patients and 30,000 visitors, 90% of whom will get there by car, and they put in a rinky dink little car park with about 50 spaces.


    Then you get the residents nearby complaining they can't park because of the hospital, or their driveways get blocked and so on. The hospital do the only thing they can think of which is to rack up the parking charges to discourage people from travelling there by car. That gets another round of complaints. And so on. All unintended consequences of screwing up a system that may have appeared inefficient but actually worked for everyone concerned. Thus making it far more efficient than the replacement.
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