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    Quote Originally Posted by Jac Hawk View Post
    Have a look on ebay for a VMS30 Mk2 stylus the bodies are the same on to 20 and 30 and you will see an improvement in sound.
    Heard a VMS20 or 30 at the last NEBO meet and it blew me socks off. Highly musical sound mounted in a Rega TT.

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    a very decent shelter 201 is currently 12,000 yen from soundheights.co.jp, a reputed seller. that's under 80 quid at the moment, hard to beat. has a bit of rich and warm mids and not a big HF extension, but for money, it's pretty much a no brainer. a shame it costs 3x more in europe, if you find one.

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    Aren't those related to the Sumiko MM's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Aren't those related to the Sumiko MM's?
    That's right. They come from the Excel ES-700 - family. You can have the cheapest ES-700 for less than 50£, and put on a better stylus. Then you have a great cart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyddroid View Post
    Heard a VMS20 or 30 at the last NEBO meet and it blew me socks off. Highly musical sound mounted in a Rega TT.
    That would be my VMS30 Mk2 Steve, they were the flagship Ortofon MM back in the day and easily hold their own against the 2M Black in my opinion, the pity is that original replacement stylus aren't available anymore, so when mine is worn unless i can get a nos i'll be forced to look at a newer model


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kvaal View Post
    That's right. They come from the Excel ES-700 - family. You can have the cheapest ES-700 for less than 50£, and put on a better stylus. Then you have a great cart!

    Correct, just as many other Excel Sound Corporation produced MMs in last 30 years, like Sumiko, A&R, Garrott etc etc.... Mind that stylus are not always interchangeable and you will need to hack them, but it shouldn't be a big work if you have a bit of tools and a good magnifier...
    Gordan.
    Speakers: Oris Swing MkII
    Amps: Thomas Mayer 300b/ Hiraga La Maison de L'Audiophile 20
    Preamp: Silver AVC by eng. Ferenc Lazar
    Phono Preamp: Shishido LCR by Solaja Audio
    Decks: Garrard 301 Martin Bastin reworked/plinthed with Fidelity Research FR64fx
    Garrard 401 in eng Ferenc Lazar solid wenge plinth with SME 3012/2
    Cartridges: SPU Spirit/ Koetsu Black revisited by eng. Salai/ Miyajima Shilabe
    Step Up Transformers: Tango MCT 999/ Ortofon T-5000/ Lumiere SUT
    Digital: Shigaclone by eng. Ferenc Lazar with Lampizator Amber II
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    I bought an Excel MM new a few years ago. Can't recall the model, but it wasn't the ES-700. It was a damn good sounding cartridge, one of the few MM's to come close to my ADC's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anubisgrau View Post
    a very decent shelter 201 is currently 12,000 yen from soundheights.co.jp, a reputed seller. that's under 80 quid at the moment, hard to beat. has a bit of rich and warm mids and not a big HF extension, but for money, it's pretty much a no brainer. a shame it costs 3x more in europe, if you find one.

    info@soundheights.co.jp is email addy
    New outfit for me Gordan, some juicy stuff there thanks for the tip.

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    The VMS30 is a fantastic cartridge and is really a 2M Black.

    The best I heard was an ADC ZLM. Bloody hell that was good. In fact, I still have it as a back up. If only I had an arm that it suited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I bought an Excel MM new a few years ago. Can't recall the model, but it wasn't the ES-700. It was a damn good sounding cartridge, one of the few MM's to come close to my ADC's.
    Probably the ES-70.

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