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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaGT View Post
    A friend wanted to sell off his vinyl, I advised him to start a second eBay account. Every seller has to deal with the dishonest shopper, and I sure don’t want them feeding back on my regular account. Use a new account to sell the records, and once they’re gone, cancel it. Preserving your personal account. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    I listen to 95% digital these days, but still like that 5% of vinyl. There is nothing quite like it for me, and why i'm reluctant to get rid....so far
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    Some people just don't get it Jim!!!

    Vinyl is beautiful. To look at, to feel, to listen to.

    I Never get that from digital.

    I don't suppose everyone is looking for the same thing from their music collection. There is no right or wrong format. Just each others preferred method. As long as we are enjoying the music, it doesn't matter much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    ........I don't suppose everyone is looking for the same thing from their music collection. There is no right or wrong format. Just each others preferred method. As long as we are enjoying the music, it doesn't matter much.
    Quite right Oliver. I've no problem with Shaun saying that he is very happy switching to digital, it's damn convenient and can sound very good. However, I do have a bit of a problem with Shaun saying it is superior to vinyl. Sure, vinyl requires a lot of care to set up right and software can be problematic but once set up it should stay right and the quality with good recordings is imho superior. I'll continue to use and enjoy both formats but digital is like a shop bought ready meal, convenient and OK but nothing like home cooked.

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    In response to Ian's post (Jerry got in the way ).

    This is exactly how I feel about it.

    Digital can be perfectly adequate to enjoy music to, but for the real thing it has to be analogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianlenco View Post
    Quite right Oliver. I've no problem with Shaun saying that he is very happy switching to digital, it's damn convenient and can sound very good. However, I do have a bit of a problem with Shaun saying it is superior to vinyl. Sure, vinyl requires a lot of care to set up right and software can be problematic but once set up it should stay right and the quality with good recordings is imho superior. I'll continue to use and enjoy both formats but digital is like a shop bought ready meal, convenient and OK but nothing like home cooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Some people just don't get it Jim!!!

    Vinyl is beautiful. To look at, to feel, to listen to.

    I Never get that from digital.

    I don't suppose everyone is looking for the same thing from their music collection. There is no right or wrong format. Just each others preferred method. As long as we are enjoying the music, it doesn't matter much.
    Don't forget the smell! Polycarbonate just doesn't smell as nice as vinyl (especially 1950's or 1960's vinyl).

    And yes, those awful polycarbonate 'jewel cases' are just designed to crack and splinter and to damage the equally awful 'sleeve note' booklets.

    Apart from that, CDs are to me an equally acceptable means of enjoying music. I use both, but I have probably spent twenty or more times the amount on vinyl replay equipment as I have on CD replay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Don't forget the smell! Polycarbonate just doesn't smell as nice as vinyl (especially 1950's or 1960's vinyl).

    And yes, those awful polycarbonate 'jewel cases' are just designed to crack and splinter and to damage the equally awful 'sleeve note' booklets.

    Apart from that, CDs are to me an equally acceptable means of enjoying music. I use both, but I have probably spent twenty or more times the amount on vinyl replay equipment as I have on CD replay.
    The smell just gets my nostalgia going. It's a really great feeling peeling the vinyl from the sleeve and just listening to the entire album. Something else I don't do with digital. It's too easy to skip tracks and dodge a track that doesn't instantly strike me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    The smell just gets my nostalgia going. It's a really great feeling peeling the vinyl from the sleeve and just listening to the entire album. Something else I don't do with digital. It's too easy to skip tracks and dodge a track that doesn't instantly strike me.
    Agree this is a big part of it for me too. I'm sure there are people who can treat digital music with the respect it deserves, but for me (and I suspect for many others) digital is a category shift from something special, chosen, individually purchased, owned and cherished, to some un-metered commodity with no specific intrinsic value. It changes the relationship between music and the listener, and not in a good way, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Agree this is a big part of it for me too. I'm sure there are people who can treat digital music with the respect it deserves, but for me (and I suspect for many others) digital is a category shift from something special, chosen, individually purchased, owned and cherished, to some un-metered commodity with no specific intrinsic value. It changes the relationship between music and the listener, and not in a good way, in my view.
    Strangely I feel rather more 'connected' with streaming than CD replay, especially since using Kodi/OSMC, and being able to view album art in HD quality on my large flatscreen TV, which I can then enjoy looking at whilst listening to the music.

    How many folks bother taking the covers out from CD jewel cases and read the miniaturised contents, whilst listening to the music, in an attempt to 'connect' with it in the same way that's possible with a vinyl album cover? I suspect almost no-one.

    Therefore, for me, in that respect, when you optimise a file-based music streaming system, sonically, and view the track information and album art on a large high-resolution TV display, then CD replay too, in comparison, becomes a category shift from something special - and which is why sooner, rather than later, it will go the way of the dodo.

    Therefore, if he hasn't already done so, Shaun should explore the streaming option, as in my experience, done well, it can not only sound better than CD, but overall offer a much more rewarding musical experience.

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