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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    The problem with digital is exactly that; "how close is gets"
    That problem is not just suffered by digital sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    As well as vinyl Vs CD, a Raspberry Pi type device needs to enter as well, as Imthink that these are the nail in the coffin of the CD player.
    +1 on that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I have fallen down that rabbit hole Marco where you can get vinyl and Digital to sound the same. The trick is to find a recording where this happens. I did this with an Agnes Obel album and could not tell the difference between the two, however on most other stuff when you compare the vinyl version to the digital version the differences become very apparent.
    Yeah, the track 'Riverside' is bloody sublime on vinyl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    My Technics SLP1200 will take the Pepsi challenge against that or any other digital set up. So would Marco's Sony R1.
    I'm sensing a bakeoff challenge.

    The SLP1200 was very good, certainly the best CDP I have heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Spotify is lossy though and that is sometimes very obvious.
    It's just an example and maybe not the best one. Perhaps someone has the vinyl and cd of it to compare. Yes many tracks sound identical on both vinyl and cd but most of those are new pressings. Agnes Obel is a good example, very nice album but doesn't have the magic of old recordings.
    To add, I don't have the album with riverside on
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    No contest in my opinion .......







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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    Godzilla is a 500ft monster
    Has anyone actually checked? I'm not sure you can get a tape measure that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
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    Godzilla is Vinyl. It has to be, it's older lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I have fallen down that rabbit hole Marco where you can get vinyl and Digital to sound the same. The trick is to find a recording where this happens. I did this with an Agnes Obel album and could not tell the difference between the two, however on most other stuff when you compare the vinyl version to the digital version the differences become very apparent.
    Lol... Are you seriously suggesting that I'm only referring to one specific recording? Come on, Jim, you know me and how thorough I am with these things!

    No, this is something I could demonstrate with at least, 20 or 30 different albums, on CD and vinyl, probably more - and it's something I've *only* been able to do since getting my T/T up to a certain technical standard.

    There's a point where the best T/Ts are so well 'sorted' (engineered), in terms of isolating the mechanical process, as it were, from music reproduced, that the former becomes almost 'invisible', and all you hear is the music itself, delivered in the 'effortless' and totally stable way of digital. It's what direct-drive T/Ts, in particular, are very good at.

    The vast majority of T/Ts I've heard gave an obvious, quite pronounced sonic signature, which then superimposes itself onto the music, so that you know, in a bad way, that it's a record you're listening to, not a CD, as you can hear the obvious coloration. Mine simply doesn't do that to any discernible degree.

    *That* is what I'm referring to, and why with the recordings in question, I can sometimes forget whether I'm listening to a record or a CD; not because my T/T sounds 'digital', in a bad way, but because the colorations, normally associated with vinyl replay are virtually absent.

    I'll demonstrate this at the bake-off in question, whenever it gets organised

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    Anyone one with Roy Orbison in dreams on vinyl, play blue bayou, it's a track with quiet passages that showcase Roy's voice, that in the room sound with reverb that sounds natural.
    Listening on Spotify it doesn't come close, lifeless and the reverb sounds fake.
    Spotify streams lossily compressed data, so it's no wonder it sounds poorer.

    I use Spotify to hear music don't have, and if it's something I really like then I'll get the CD.
    So far the CD rip has always sounded noticeably better than the Spotify stream.

    My conclusion is that Spotify streams do not stand up under scrutiny. They make a pleasant enough sound on playback, but they're not up to the standard of CD.
    This may change when they eventually start streaming uncompressed (and by uncompressed I mean data compressed) material.
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