Location: East Riding of Yorkshire these days
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I'm Shaun.
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire these days
Posts: 4,779
I'm Shaun.
It's just an example and maybe not the best one. Perhaps someone has the vinyl and cd of it to compare. Yes many tracks sound identical on both vinyl and cd but most of those are new pressings. Agnes Obel is a good example, very nice album but doesn't have the magic of old recordings.
To add, I don't have the album with riverside on
Bakoon 13r Denon DP80 Stax UA-70 Shure Ultra 500 in a Martin Bastin body with jico stylus, project ds2 digital Rullit aero 8 field coils in tqwt speakers
Office system, DIY CSS fullrange speakers with aurum cantus G2 ribbons yulong dac Sony STR6055 receiver Jvc QL-A51 direct drive turntable, Leema sub. JVC Z4S cart is in the house
Garage system another Sony receiver, cassette deck
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I'm Mike.
No contest in my opinion .......
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Lol... Are you seriously suggesting that I'm only referring to one specific recording? Come on, Jim, you know me and how thorough I am with these things!
No, this is something I could demonstrate with at least, 20 or 30 different albums, on CD and vinyl, probably more - and it's something I've *only* been able to do since getting my T/T up to a certain technical standard.
There's a point where the best T/Ts are so well 'sorted' (engineered), in terms of isolating the mechanical process, as it were, from music reproduced, that the former becomes almost 'invisible', and all you hear is the music itself, delivered in the 'effortless' and totally stable way of digital. It's what direct-drive T/Ts, in particular, are very good at.
The vast majority of T/Ts I've heard gave an obvious, quite pronounced sonic signature, which then superimposes itself onto the music, so that you know, in a bad way, that it's a record you're listening to, not a CD, as you can hear the obvious coloration. Mine simply doesn't do that to any discernible degree.
*That* is what I'm referring to, and why with the recordings in question, I can sometimes forget whether I'm listening to a record or a CD; not because my T/T sounds 'digital', in a bad way, but because the colorations, normally associated with vinyl replay are virtually absent.
I'll demonstrate this at the bake-off in question, whenever it gets organised
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Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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Spotify streams lossily compressed data, so it's no wonder it sounds poorer.
I use Spotify to hear music don't have, and if it's something I really like then I'll get the CD.
So far the CD rip has always sounded noticeably better than the Spotify stream.
My conclusion is that Spotify streams do not stand up under scrutiny. They make a pleasant enough sound on playback, but they're not up to the standard of CD.
This may change when they eventually start streaming uncompressed (and by uncompressed I mean data compressed) material.
Chris
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