Gave up on vinyl

[Crackles]

I bought an album recently from Discogs that was graded near mint for the cover and the record. When it arrived both cover and record were 'good' at best. I told him this and he apologised but I didn't ask for a refund because he had only charged a fiver which was about right for the quality, but no way was it near mint. If something sounds too good...

Thing is, this was a professional dealer who had been at it for years and had tons of good feedback.

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[struth]

ive always tried to grade as i would see it as a buyer. a small leeway can be given with older, rarer stuff as its survived maybe 50 years, its unlikely to be perfect even sealed. but generally im usually pretty close tbh.

[Jimbo]

Ah but CD is not physically limited the way vinyl is due to the nature of the groove cutting process.

Digital trounces vinyl technically, pity it doesn't match it for sound quality which is what its all about for me.

[montesquieu]

Digital trounces vinyl technically, pity it doesn't match it for sound quality which is what its all about for me.

Subject to doing it right (its far cheaper and easier to build a decent digital system than a vinyl one) but yes ... spot on.

[Marco]

Digital trounces vinyl technically, pity it doesn't match it for sound quality which is what its all about for me.

Lol - we've been here before, remember? "Doesn't", perhaps, in your experience, Jamsie baby! In my system, as I said before, the difference is small - and you know how good my turntable is!

What about that super-duper Chord DAC you heard, are you saying that your T/T is still markedly better than that?

Marco.

[Jimbo]

Lol - we've been here before, remember? "Doesn't", perhaps, in your experience, Jamsie baby! In my system, as I said before, the difference is small - and you know how good my turntable is!

What about that super-duper Chord DAC you heard, are you saying that your T/T is still markedly better than that?

Marco.

I know we have been here before many times. I do not dispute what others hear or prefer and the technical aspects of vinyl vs digital have been exhausted over many posts on AOS. I am happy for folk who have found digital does it for them and have managed to get it to sound good as indeed I have with the Chord DAC and InnuOs server but it still can't match the sound and aural qualities I get from vinyl.

No matter which way you slice it, digital has a fingerprint on everything that is recorded and played back via that medium which I perceive as a glass wall between reality and the listening experience.

Much of the vinyl I listen too is from analogue recordings so no digital in the chain. Most of this music sounds wonderful and still makes me sit up and listen in astonishment at the absolute quality of sound I am listening too. Even the very best digital systems I have heard can't achieve this. Even the vinyl I listen too from digital recordings still sounds better than most of those recordings played back via a digital system.

[Audio Al]

Much of the vinyl I listen too is from analogue recordings so no digital in the chain. Most of this music sounds wonderful and still makes me sit up and listen in astonishment at the absolute quality of sound I am listening too. Even the very best digital systems I have heard can't achieve this. Even the vinyl I listen too from digital recordings still sounds better than most of those recordings played back via a digital system.

+ 10 well said Sir Jombo

[Marco]

I know we have been here before many times... I do not dispute what others hear or prefer and the technical aspects of vinyl vs digital have been exhausted over many posts on AOS. I am happy for folk who have found digital does it for them and have managed to get it to sound good as indeed I have with the Chord DAC and InnuOs server but it still can't match the sound and aural qualities I get from vinyl.

No matter which way you slice it, digital has a fingerprint on everything that is recorded and played back via that medium which I perceive as a glass wall between reality and the listening experience.

Much of the vinyl I listen too is from analogue recordings so no digital in the chain. Most of this music sounds wonderful and still makes me sit up and listen in astonishment at the absolute quality of sound I am listening too. Even the very best digital systems I have heard can't achieve this. Even the vinyl I listen too from digital recordings still sounds better than most of those recordings played back via a digital system.

No worries, I get all that and understand where you're coming from, as I've had similar experiences. However, I still think the main culprit for you holding your current viewpoint is that you've yet to hear a good enough digital source, which can seriously compete with your T/T.

What about that Dave DAC you were raving about - do you think that would hit the spot in a shootout with your T/T?

Marco.

[Jimbo]

No worries, I get all that and understand where you're coming from, as I've had similar experiences. However, I still think the main culprit for you holding your current viewpoint is that you've yet to hear a good enough digital source, which can seriously compete with your T/T.

What about that Dave DAC you were raving about - do you think that would hit the spot in a shootout with your T/T?

Marco.

It's a difficult question to answer because on many fronts it beats my turntable but that elusive quality you get from vinyl and tangible realism would still not be there. DAVE ticks a lot of boxes. Very low noise floor, massive dynamic ability and a very good handle on soundstage perspective. It is a very precise machine that delivers a huge performance but I question its musical ability to connect with the emotion of the music. Yes it has spades of detail and lots of acoustic information but honestly if you gave me one I would still prefer my vinyl and it would probably only come out for party tricks every now and then.

I guess it's like valve and transistor amps. I appreciate what trannies can do but as far as playing music valves win hands down for me. I probably like distortion mixed in with my music and this may well be what our brains like to hear?

[alphaGT]

Godda larf you guys. A week ago I sold a copy of The Manic Street Preachers vinyl LP 'Everything Must Go' that I bought in 1997 and which had never ever been played. I received negative feedback today from this piece of scumshite because apparently it was 'not as described'. Of course he is now blocked but due to ebay's blatant discrimination against sellers there is bog all I can do about it other than report him, which I have done. This is the first negative feedback I have received since about 2002.

A friend wanted to sell off his vinyl, I advised him to start a second eBay account. Every seller has to deal with the dishonest shopper, and I sure don’t want them feeding back on my regular account. Use a new account to sell the records, and once they’re gone, cancel it. Preserving your personal account. Just a thought.

Russell