Gave up on vinyl

[Edward]

I'm finding listening to streaming music (Tidal via Roon) is giving me a similar experience to what I had in the 70s and 80s listening to vinyl.

Different in the actual format of course but similar in that I'm learning lots of new music and listening again to stuff I've not heard for ages. This is considerably enhanced by the deep metadata, artwork, lyrics, bios, connections and history that Roon makes available. A lot of this is often displayed on a large screen whilst listening. Akin to holding an LP and reading all the stuff.

Still hanging on to TTs and vinyl though. For now ....

[alphaGT]

I get it, my last analog setup was not that special, it sounded good, but I played more CD’s on average, seemed more convenient. At that time, I could have gone the same way, and gotten out of vinyl.

But my present vinyl system is a different matter. If has the power to evoke emotions, and most of all, one record leads to another, and another. I’ve actually got more money in my CD player, and it does sound amazing! But somehow, lacks that quality to make me want to keep choosing another, and another.

But I confess, I am caught in the nostalgia, all of my favorite recordings are on vinyl, from my favorite era of music, the 70’s, when Vinyl was King! I always tried not to buy duplicate titles when CD came out, so most of my CD’s are from the 80’s and 90’s. So, it seems my favorite recordings are on vinyl? Is it any wonder I appreciate them more? And frankly, replacing them all with digital copies, if that were even possible, sounds like a lot of trouble! I find that I spin vinyl less often as time passes, but on the occasions that I do, I can fully appreciate it, so I’ll be keeping it, for those occasions, no mater how rare they become. To each their own.

Russell

[Marco]

It's a difficult question to answer because on many fronts it beats my turntable but that elusive quality you get from vinyl and tangible realism would still not be there. DAVE ticks a lot of boxes. Very low noise floor, massive dynamic ability and a very good handle on soundstage perspective. It is a very precise machine that delivers a huge performance but I question its musical ability to connect with the emotion of the music. Yes it has spades of detail and lots of acoustic information but honestly if you gave me one I would still prefer my vinyl and it would probably only come out for party tricks every now and then.

I guess it's like valve and transistor amps. I appreciate what trannies can do but as far as playing music valves win hands down for me. I probably like distortion mixed in with my music and this may well be what our brains like to hear?

No problem, Jim. It'll be interesting when you get to hear my system [which *will* happen at some point soon] and see how close you think the CDP is to my T/T

Marco.

[Marco]

I'm finding listening to streaming music (Tidal via Roon) is giving me a similar experience to what I had in the 70s and 80s listening to vinyl.

Different in the actual format of course but similar in that I'm learning lots of new music and listening again to stuff I've not heard for ages. This is considerably enhanced by the deep metadata, artwork, lyrics, bios, connections and history that Roon makes available. A lot of this is often displayed on a large screen whilst listening. Akin to holding an LP and reading all the stuff.

That's exactly what I was getting at earlier, Edward. Nice one

Marco.

[Bigman80]

That's exactly what I was getting at earlier, Edward. Nice one

Marco.

The problem with digital is exactly that; "how close is gets"

That statement in itself, reveals that its second in ranking. Vinyl for me is the reference or the marker, that digital is trying to replicate.

That is the problem, its trying to replicate what an excellent Vinyl replay system can do. How many folk say "I'm trying to get my Vinyl setup as good as my digital one"?

Digital in a standalone format can be excellent, no doubt but as good as vinyl, I'm not so sure.

Apples and oranges.

[Edward]

I don't have as an aim to 'replicate vinyl' or even try to emulate it. I try to listen to music for its emotional drive, how it engages me and the 'art' of the musicians. A well set up vinyl set up gives me that (last Saturday Tom showed me what vinyl can do), equally a well set up digital set up gives me that. Different - I love them both. Like in art there is a difference between oils and water colours - both equally valid for conveying meaning.

The 'convenience' factor also plays a big part in this picture. But as they say YMMV.

[Bigman80]

I don't have as an aim to 'replicate vinyl' or even try to emulate it. I try to listen to music for its emotional drive, how it engages me and the 'art' of the musicians. A well set up vinyl set up gives me that (last Saturday Tom showed me what vinyl can do), equally a well set up digital set up gives me that. Different - I love them both. Like in art there is a difference between oils and water colours - both equally valid for conveying meaning.

The 'convenience' factor also plays a big part in this picture. But as they say YMMV.

Fair point Ed, like I say, as long as we are getting what we want, there is no right or wrong.

[Marco]

Hi Ollie,

The problem with digital is exactly that; "how close is gets"

If you're referring to my reply to Jim, that's not what I meant. I meant how close the sound is between my CDP and T/T. That subtle difference makes the context rather different. Trust me, I could blindfold you and play two identical albums, one on vinyl and the other on CD, and you'd struggle to tell which is which

How many folk say "I'm trying to get my Vinyl setup as good as my digital one"?

Actually, me (in certain respects)! I've discussed this before, but this isn't the thread to go through it all again.

Marco.

[Bigman80]

Hi Ollie,



If you're referring to my reply to Jim, that's not what I meant. I meant how close the sound is between my CDP and T/T. Trust me, I could blindfold you and play two identical albums, one on vinyl and the other on CD, and you'd struggle to tell which is which



Actually, me! I've discussed this before, but this isn't the thread to go through it all again.

Marco.

Challenge accepted!! Analogue v digital. Blind test, I'm up for that.

Yep, no need to go over old ground.

[Crackles]

Challenge accepted!! Analogue v digital. Blind test, I'm up for that.

Yep, no need to go over old ground.

Sounds like the next bake off

Years ago when I had a Rega RP1 it sounded worse than my CD player, totally lifeless, but using a decent TT these days makes me hardly want to listen to CD.

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