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    Default Another WoW ! why do we continually spend more (upgrade ?) moments ?

    Haven't had one of these for quite a while.

    I'm in between my main speakers at the moment, sold and dispatched my wonderful old Heco 300's, waiting for my new ............................ Heco 300's to arrive.

    So, in the interim, slapped a 30 pair of Tannoy Mercury M1's on the end of my whacking great Class A power amp and a real moment ensues. They sound great, don't give an awful lot away to the Heco's. I could quite happily live with these.

    Yes, of course the Heco's are better, but not at everything and not by as much as I would have thought / expected / hoped.

    Sometimes you have to wonder why we chase that extra few % for 10x the cost
    Mike (that's me)'s stuff -

    Analogue:Garrard 401 / OL Silver / AT33PTGII, Remton 383 MkII valve phono
    Make music louder: TVC pre, Nirvana Electronic Works A60, 60W / Ch Class A power
    For when there's no Analogue: Doge 6 CDP
    To discover loads of new music: Spotify into foo'd Xiang Sheng DAC-01A
    Music boxes: Heco Celan 300
    Cleaning duties: Okki Nokki 2

    Y'know, sometimes, Satan, come as a man of peace.

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    Got a lovely set of those in spare room. Yes they work well
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    Someone said to me many years ago that HiFi is a mugs game and that people end up wasting huge amounts of money trying to get tiny improvements. He said it's better to just get a simple system you're happy with it and leave it there.

    I completely ignored him of course and proceeded to waste hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pounds on stuff I never use but can't be bothered selling on.

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    These hadn't been used in 10+ years Grant.

    I didn't expect much and got a great deal. If I had been wiser and re-appropriated some of the 1000's I have spent on kit over the years, just to gain / lose the odd few % here and there, I'd have a legendary record collection and that's what it's all about, after all.
    Mike (that's me)'s stuff -

    Analogue:Garrard 401 / OL Silver / AT33PTGII, Remton 383 MkII valve phono
    Make music louder: TVC pre, Nirvana Electronic Works A60, 60W / Ch Class A power
    For when there's no Analogue: Doge 6 CDP
    To discover loads of new music: Spotify into foo'd Xiang Sheng DAC-01A
    Music boxes: Heco Celan 300
    Cleaning duties: Okki Nokki 2

    Y'know, sometimes, Satan, come as a man of peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crackles View Post
    Someone said to me many years ago that HiFi is a mugs game and that people end up wasting huge amounts of money trying to get tiny improvements. He said it's better to just get a simple system you're happy with it and leave it there.
    Couldn't agree with him more John. But it's only age and experience that leads us there, and even then, some of us never arrive
    Mike (that's me)'s stuff -

    Analogue:Garrard 401 / OL Silver / AT33PTGII, Remton 383 MkII valve phono
    Make music louder: TVC pre, Nirvana Electronic Works A60, 60W / Ch Class A power
    For when there's no Analogue: Doge 6 CDP
    To discover loads of new music: Spotify into foo'd Xiang Sheng DAC-01A
    Music boxes: Heco Celan 300
    Cleaning duties: Okki Nokki 2

    Y'know, sometimes, Satan, come as a man of peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idlewithnodrive View Post
    Couldn't agree with him more John. But it's only age and experience that leads us there, and even then, some of us never arrive
    Yep. I'm worse than ever now. There's about three grand worth of stuff I've got my eye on at the moment, all money that could be going into my pension or something, but that would be boring wouldn't it.

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    The other day I had my 100 pound bw standmounts playing and a visiting audiophile preferred them to my new 4k speakers that were also playing !!!
    1]bel canto pre 3 vbs /MSB s200 , / onkyo sacd/ bel canto fm1
    sonos, . tannoy eaton legacy 2]schiit saga pre , firebottle mono`s marantz sa8005 bel canto 3.5vbss and RFC impulse ta`us , track audio stands

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    Compared to the kit that I see on the site, I feel like a bottom feeder! ;-) But I started out with an all in one system, then a Cambridge Audio A1 amp, etc. and eventually found a deal on my dream amp an Audiolab 8000A. That was over 20 years ago and am still running the same gear. I got to that level and just never found the want to upgrade any further as I simply liked what I heard. What is wrong with me!? ;-)
    I ended up putting that money into cars instead and wasting(enjoying) a ton of money in that way while enjoying my music on my system in the evenings.

    Before last Christmas I did buy new speakers. The first floorstanders that I ever owned. A lovely sound. Different to my standmounts, but better? I am not sure to be honest. Not worse for sure. it's a strange old game this!
    Also with cars.....I've owned mine now for 13 years and never felt the need to upgrade..... what's wrong with me!??!? :-0 ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Joe View Post
    Compared to the kit that I see on the site, I feel like a bottom feeder! ;-) But I started out with an all in one system, then a Cambridge Audio A1 amp, etc. and eventually found a deal on my dream amp an Audiolab 8000A. That was over 20 years ago and am still running the same gear. I got to that level and just never found the want to upgrade any further as I simply liked what I heard. What is wrong with me!? ;-)
    I ended up putting that money into cars instead and wasting(enjoying) a ton of money in that way while enjoying my music on my system in the evenings.

    Before last Christmas I did buy new speakers. The first floorstanders that I ever owned. A lovely sound. Different to my standmounts, but better? I am not sure to be honest. Not worse for sure. it's a strange old game this!
    Also with cars.....I've owned mine now for 13 years and never felt the need to upgrade..... what's wrong with me!??!? :-0 ;-)
    I lost the bug for cars years ago and don't regret it at all. They just aren't worth spending loads of money on in my opinion. But I do get why other people love them and want to own nice cars. I suppose they are similar to hifi in that way.

    My hifi is now worth more (in new prices) than I paid for my car brand new 7 years ago.

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    Interesting comparison between cars and Hi-Fi.

    Both can have ego/status value, but few have Hi-Fi and do so thinking about status. Cars cost a lot to maintain and run, and roads are not as free and easy as they were half a century ago. I used to ride big bikes, but the cameras and traffic density have spoilt that, and for me car driving is not so pleasureful because of traffic density.

    Once you have a system you like, it can provide pleasure continually and virtually cost free, and this is especially good in the winter, and for relaxing after say, a workout or a hard day's work.

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