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    OK, now we have more info this is my strategy.

    PVA eliminated, it will not glue vinyl.

    Araldite is good, can be used as a bulk filling glue, (where superglue cannot).

    Soak the underlying wood in the araladite mix, compress the veneer into position, holding it with a piece of wood, and yes, a hairdryer can also speed up this glue setting time considerably, I have done it often.

    It is also worth remembering that araldite is soluble in Meths, and so a meths soaked rag can be used to dissolve off excess.

    Do not overdo the heat, the vinyl may melt.

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    I am... you are right. I find this theraputic as I hate damaging anything. Its a fairly simple job and Im just pontificating. Before I peeled some back it was barely noticeable and would have been a two minute job to fill under 1mm of bent down veneer.

    That would make sense so if the board has been pre veneered he drills the speaker holes in pre veneered board. That would make the cabinets easier to build and finish off. I might build some cabinets one day.

    I will get on with it and let you all know how I managed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    OK, now we have more info this is my strategy.

    PVA eliminated, it will not glue vinyl.

    Araldite is good, can be used as a bulk filling glue, (where superglue cannot).

    Soak the underlying wood in the araladite mix, compress the veneer into position, holding it with a piece of wood, and yes, a hairdryer can also speed up this glue setting time considerably, I have done it often.

    It is also worth remembering that araldite is soluble in Meths, and so a meths soaked rag can be used to dissolve off excess.

    Do not overdo the heat, the vinyl may melt.
    Yes thankyou as that is now the plan. It will be an Araldite style glue and I cant see any problems. Once I have prepared it by taking enough underlying material out the vinyl should sit down easily in place for glueing

    Thanks very much everyone. This has been very theraputic for me and i just wanted to put some thought into it without rushing things.

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    Screwfix does Araldite clear. It's a good quality epoxy and is crystal clear...
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    It has responded very well to a warm iron over thick packing paper doubled up.

    Its much better now and I have been dabbing black acrylic paint with modellers micro brushes so the corner and back are matched because acrylic is easy to water down and pick/rub off

    The iron was key but I have left myself with a shadow crease where I daftly peeled back the vinyl. Its not glued yet so Im going to keep dabbing in filler over the days and then iron it out

    I took too much of the underneath off and I should have just ironed it as it was when I peeled it. Its great what a bit of heat does on this vinyl. Its hardy stuff and responds well to moderate heat. the initial bent corner has just ironed out flat

    I could have had it nigh on perfect if I had not panicked as I get a bit OCD with these things. A little corner crease on black vinyl is not the end of the world. It is smoothing out and just need a good enough filled surface underneath to iron and smooth it more acrylic in which will dry and mould to the heat

    Thanks for all your suggestions. Of all the speakers I didnt want to damage it was these Minstrels as I managed to bring them up from Portsmouth in near mint cabinet condition
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    That's good. Thought it might
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    Happy ending
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magna Audio View Post
    Happy ending
    well nearly Im a perfectionist and still have a bit of thinking about liquid fillers. Im so OCD about damaging stuff that I will often make a problem worse than it should have been to fix.

    The problem with veneered corners is that if they are damaged it is a job to get them looking as new no matter how minor the damage.

    Ah well I will pretend it never happened and get them back on the concrete plinths with crushed velvet frame cover.

    They still work well which is the main thing

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