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Thread: Phonostage Bake-Off - 08/07/18 - Penkridge *NOW CONFIRMED*

  1. #301
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    It was too loud when the swings happened and it needed adjustment.

    That's my excuse anyway lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    It was too loud when the swings happened and it needed adjustment.

    That's my excuse anyway lol
    I know, I would have notched it back a bit too at the same points you did, but I hate having to do that. We might not have needed to if we had more damping in the room I think.
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    Yes, we can do better room wise. We had a test LP and could've set the volume from that with a sound level meter. All learning and to be fair, we weren't THAT far out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I know, I would have notched it back a bit too at the same points you did, but I hate having to do that. We might not have needed to if we had more damping in the room I think.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Lee,

    How much modding have you done to yours? Does your's have the Dual mono PSU, Thorstens Mods, or the Special tight tolerance component pack (I like that) which can be bought from John over in the USA? I got Alan to mod my own clone, I can't believe that it finished 5th!

    Andy
    Hi Andy

    Prior to the recent mods which Alan has carried out Iím pretty sure from memory it has the Thorsten mods but wouldnít be 100%, I know itís got some Black Gate caps and Telefunken valves. Iíll have a look to see what the mods Rabski carried out over on the wam before I brought it from him. I can also confirm what Alan has carried out itís elevated it to another level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebottle View Post
    It was in unmodified state at the bake-off Andy, the mods done only today have lifted it a lot. It wouldn't be 5th now.
    HA! Yep I'd have fetched mine but work unfortunately got in the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Yes, we can do better room wise. We had a test LP and could've set the volume from that with a sound level meter. All learning and to be fair, we weren't THAT far out.

    I was at a bake off and there was proper level matching with a level meter on a tripod. On one swap everyone said 'That's louder' about 2 seconds in. Level was checked again with the gubbins and a mistake had been made. It was about 0.5dB louder and we all heard it right away.

    But if you want to do scientific testing you go to a lab, not a bake off.
    Martin



    Current Lash Up:

    Technics SLP1200 CD Player * NVA P90SA passive pre / Krell KSA50S Power amp * JM Lab Electra 926 loudspeakers *


    'This is the sort of music I'd be listening to if I was going shopping for a training bra.'

  7. #307
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    Yup. Agreed
    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I was at a bake off and there was proper level matching with a level meter on a tripod. On one swap everyone said 'That's louder' about 2 seconds in. Level was checked again with the gubbins and a mistake had been made. It was about 0.5dB louder and we all heard it right away.

    But if you want to do scientific testing you go to a lab, not a bake off.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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    It’s not hard to level sound.
    Disagree.

    A bake off should be fun, and not a proper lab test, but you can always reduce the variables and there are loads of free phone apps for sound.
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    Hi guys,
    Thanks for organizing this amazing event! It has been an absolute pleasure for me to experience such a big lot of great sounding phono stages. London grammer record was a great finding for me too. Getting the chance to try a few different step up transformers with MY VAS phono stage, took me into the right direction to put together my personal hi fi system. Pairing a VAS with Audio innovations step up transformers is a great match. I would also like to know what interconnect cables have been used.
    Best regards,
    Stoyan

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    Quote Originally Posted by audio pills View Post
    Hi guys,
    Thanks for organizing this amazing event! It has been an absolute pleasure for me to experience such a big lot of great sounding phono stages. London grammer record was a great finding for me too. Getting the chance to try a few different step up transformers with MY VAS phono stage, took me into the right direction to put together my personal hi fi system. Pairing a VAS with Audio innovations step up transformers is a great match. I would also like to know what interconnect cables have been used.
    Best regards,
    Stoyan
    Hi Stoyan!!

    Glad to hear from you.

    Thank you for bringing the VAS to the bakeoff. It was stunningly good. I felt the Audio Innovations SUT really helped with the VAS so if you go in that direction, I think you'll be very happy.

    The Interconnects were my own SPOTFIRE cables.

    Thread here:

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url...7&share_type=t

    Plenty of feedback there and there is still a pair out on loan if you want to try them in your own home. Just ask to be added to the loan list.

    Oliver.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Bigbottle Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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