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    As long as you don't use cavitation excessively there shouldn't be a problem.
    After all it's pretty much doing the same job as an rcm Just the bubbles bursting is producing the friction. Use a higher ultrasonic transducer frequency and increase the number of bubbles at a smaller size and lower energy release per bubble.

    It's all just heat and friction
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    To date i've cleaned 12 LP's, 4 batches of 3 and i think that's about as much as i can get out of one tank of cleaning solution without filtering it, here's a photo



    as you can see it's filthy and the LP's i cleaned were reasonably clean already or at least that's what i thought before i took a look at the cleaning fluid, now i don't want to have to replace 6 litres of cleaning fluid every time i clean 12 LP's so my thinking is i use a fuel filter connected with some tubing to the drain tap and basically filter the fluid into a couple of 5 litre containers every couple of uses, the filter should remove the particles and leave me with a useable fluid that's fit for purpose.

    My other thought is that a certain amount of dirt is going to stick to the LP's as they're lifted out of the bath, i'm thinking of filling a plant sprayer with distilled water and give the vinyl a shower before i dry them


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    My hypothesis is that at the point where the records are cleaned albeit in dirty solution, a classic RCM such as Loricraft would finish the job off a treat. However that's all it is, a hypothesis... I have no ultrasonic cleaner.

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    I've seen the same with the Kirmuss. The large pieces cannot have come off the records in one piece. They must be combined particles...I hope so!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jac Hawk View Post
    To date i've cleaned 12 LP's, 4 batches of 3 and i think that's about as much as i can get out of one tank of cleaning solution without filtering it, here's a photo



    as you can see it's filthy and the LP's i cleaned were reasonably clean already or at least that's what i thought before i took a look at the cleaning fluid, now i don't want to have to replace 6 litres of cleaning fluid every time i clean 12 LP's so my thinking is i use a fuel filter connected with some tubing to the drain tap and basically filter the fluid into a couple of 5 litre containers every couple of uses, the filter should remove the particles and leave me with a useable fluid that's fit for purpose.

    My other thought is that a certain amount of dirt is going to stick to the LP's as they're lifted out of the bath, i'm thinking of filling a plant sprayer with distilled water and give the vinyl a shower before i dry them
    The dirt will not stick to the records ... therefore you can clean more records in the solvent.

    For filtering, you need to use a 1 micron (at least). As stated in my line #9, you can find 1 micron filter socks on eBay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    I've seen the same with the Kirmuss. The large pieces cannot have come off the records in one piece. They must be combined particles...I hope so!
    i think so Clive, the effect of the ultrasonics when they're on seems to pull the particles into larger balls, even so i want to filter it, a 4 micron in line fuel filter is my thinking at the moment, but James is right when he says a classic vacuum RCM would lift all the loose crap off


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    I've look at the 1 micron filter socks and will go there only when i'm satisfied that a fuel filter won't cut it, my thinking is that 6 litres is a lot of fluid and i know how much time it took to filter the Knosti fluid when i had one of them, also i could easily attach an in line pump to constantly filter the fluid.


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    If anyone with an ultrasonic cleaner is in striking distance of W. London and wants to try I can bring my Loricraft over to do exactly this. I'd be most interested in the outcome...

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    I have done a lot of research and tests on filtering (manual and auto) and found out that only 1 micron filters will get rid of all contaminants in the solvent.

    Manual:
    I am using a 1 micron filter sock cut and glued into a cone shape into a funnel. The flow rate is good at about 1 liter+/min.

    The filter can be cleaned and re-used over and over. If the fluide is very dirty, one can use a coffee filter for a first stage filtering, over the 1 micron filter.

    With the 3x filter socks bought on the bay, I can create more than 18 cone shapes filters, which will last a long long time.

    Auto: This is wip as I want to be able to filter while the US tank is running.


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    Without using an in line cartridge type filter i think you will struggle to be able to recirculate the cleaning fluid while the cleaner is in operation because the pump will either run too quickly or too slowly for your needs, i'm currently looking for an in line filter that goes down to 1 micron that is suitable, my plan so far is that i base everything on reducing the 15mm outlet down to 8mm which is a common size used for fuel systems in cars, once down to 8mm i can attach an in line filter and a 12v fuel pump from a car.


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