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    Quote Originally Posted by narabdela View Post
    No offence taken. Nothing wrong with a difference of opinion.
    It would help matters along Hugh if you expressed your own opinon on the subject
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonuffin View Post
    It would help matters along Hugh if you expressed your own opinion on the subject


    I think that cable threads help to liven up Hi-Fi forums.*


    (I actually prefer 'fora', but that's another contentious subject).

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    Quote Originally Posted by narabdela View Post
    I think that cable threads help to liven up Hi-Fi forums.
    Could be. Shall I start another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Could be. Shall I start another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by narabdela View Post
    How about RCA connectors and do they make a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post

    I also agree with your point on hearing acuity, although acuity aside, I do also believe that some people can benefit from being 'trained' on how to hear subtle changes in musical presentation when, let's call it, 'less bad', cables are introduced into a system, before they 'get' what's going on, as some are inherently more attuned to picking up on those changes than others.

    Marco.
    Further to the trained ear comment - Ortofon use an independent "Golden Ears" panel that gives a subjective opinion on each type of cartridge produced, quite separate from the in-house evaluation. I was reading an article where Ortofon were saying they had to train each member of the panel and re-calibrate their hearing, as to what good sound was. As most had been subjected to poor sound, through effects/compression/ear buds etc for so long, they had forgotten what real music sounded like, so had false/poor references as a base line. Basically what they were getting at was, if you listen to one kind of sound, good or bad, for long enough, it becomes your reference to compare things against and anything different can be perceived as wrong or lacking.

    It's been a great thread this, enjoyed it, lots of good ideas and points of view expressed.

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    I have been a Food Technologist working for some of the top multinationals for many years and most of them have trained food panels who work in their sensory departments.

    They take food or product tasting very seriously and its not down to a decision of whether someone likes the taste of something or not. The panelists will be trained for months to assess the key attributes of flavour and develop terminology to describe them. The sensory analysis is complex and very detailed which produces results that can let food or flavour companies develop products to a precise flavour or consistency they are looking for.

    I am sure if this level of analysis was applied to high fidelity equipment in both its development or assessment by the purchaser it would negate some of the purely subjective opinions and base audio listening experience as an objective discipline.

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    Trouble with that is, are the panellists the folk that will be eating it? Chances are. NO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I have been a Food Technologist working for some of the top multinationals for many years

    You wouldn't be any chance have input as to what bulking agents, flavour enhancers, synthetic flavourings, binding agents, cheap fats, emulsifiers, dairy substitutes, anti-oxidants, preservatives, etc, that manufacturers can get away with using without cocking up the flavour of food too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    You wouldn't be any chance have input as to what bulking agents, flavour enhancers, synthetic flavourings, binding agents, cheap fats, emulsifiers, dairy substitutes, anti-oxidants, preservatives, etc, that manufacturers can get away with using without cocking up the flavour of food too much?
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