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    Hi all.

    Does anyone use or have used this before? Of so, what is it like?

    Just looking in to some different stuff at the moment.

    Thanks

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    Not used it myself although I do have a bottle , Did read somewhere that records need a clean water rinse as some mould has been noted on stored records when just using the cleaning solution
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    The only caveat to L'Art du Son that I've come across is not in its cleaning effectiveness but in its storage potential. A good friend bought an expensive large amount, went abroad to work for 6 months and came back to find it riddled with mould. I've also read of a number of similar instances on other forums.

    I could be wrong, but it may be enzyme based, which may account for this. Personally, I use good old IPA mix with my RCM. Much cheaper and (seemingly) just as effective.

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    Thanks guys, very informative.

    I read within the bumf of the product and it says IPA can damage records. Now I'm one for reading between the lines on product descriptions but I did wonder if I missed something regarding IPA hence this thread really.

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    I've been using IPA + distilled water for over 30 years and never had any problems. Not found anything more effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post

    I read within the bumf of the product and it says IPA can damage records.
    Spurious misinformation or a load of bollards; take your pick. Tony L, record dealer on pfm has been using this mix on many thousands of records, as have just so many others, including me.

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    L'art is organic based I think.So bacterial growth using standard DI water and not Lab grade which has a low bacterial level could be a problem and I found it needed an extra water rinse to remove the film it left behind.

    Nowt wrong with the IPA mix,been using it since the early 90's and have had no problems.
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    I've been using it. Works fine for me, but I haven't a lot of experience with other solutions. It was sold to me as the best solution. It's far better than the stuff that comes with Knosti machines, but that's not really saying much.
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    +1 IPA fine with vinyl - I use laboratory grade (99.9%) mixed with double-distilled water to produce a 20% (v/v) solution containing 0.05% (v/v) Triton X-100 (used as a wetting agent). I filter mine (0.45 micron) before use and store in the dark.

    L'Art du Son (LAS) works very well with the above (2 x washes 20% IPA 0.05% TX-100 followed by 1 wash with LAS diluted as per instructions; Okki-Nokki RCM).

    Yes, it does form a white 'flocculant' precipitate on extended storage, but I do not believe this to be a result of bacterial and/or fungal contamination. I once sterile filtering a quantity of LAS prior to storage and it made no difference. I store 5 ml aliquots of LAS at -20 degrees Celsisus (i.e. in the freezer) and prepare a working solution in 50 ml sterile tubes polypropylene tubes when I have records to clean. In my experience, this will keep at least a month, in the dark, with out problems.

    Another approach, if one has a pile of LPs that need cleaning over a period of 7 - 10 days, is to prepare up to 1 litre of working solution which I then store in a thermos flask (rinsed 2 x with boiling water) reserved exclusively for this purpose.

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    Rightly or wrongly, I've cured the problem of unwanted growth in my water LAS mix by adding a teaspoon of bleach to each half litre I make up. Made the last batch before Xmas, is kept in an large open cupboard with my records and it's still clear as a bell.

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