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    I wasn't convinced of the value of headphone amps until a) I bought my HD800s and b) my Chord Mojo turned up. Now I don't have to listen without because its totally portable.

    That said, some devices have half decent output stages, and some headphones are very easy to drive.
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    I used to have a Heed Canamp until I was offered a straight swap for a DarkVoice 337SE valve headphone amp.
    The former was good with my HD580s but the replacement is just amazing. It is a big heavy beast mind.

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    I have a Lehmann HPA I use with my sennys and sony phones, i need a HPA because my Moon amp has no headphone output, so without one I'm knackered.
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    My smsl is superb headphone amp and dac. Used for several hrs a day with mr oppos
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    I have two sets of Stax headphones and energisers. They sound great, but aren't that comfortable to wear for long stretches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyddroid View Post
    Had one. Didn't like it.
    Also have Senn HD600 and have to say didn't get on with the Capella either - only had it for a short time though.

    In response to your original point, I haven't found a hard and fast rule so far with the 600:

    Not at all bad with a self-build CMOY HPA - definitely very good VFM in terms of sound quality.
    Not impressed with the direct output from a Quad 405-2 via an (old) QED MA30 switching unit.
    Worked very well with a Musical Fidelity V-Can 2 HPA - very well indeed.
    Not impressed with the built in outputs of a Teac integrated or a Q-DAC.
    Brilliant with my current integrated (a Quad Vena)

    Edited to add - best so far without a doubt is an RPi with IQAudio DAC+ output.
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    I remember when a decent integrated included a phono stage and headphone amp. Now we pay separately for them because they're not included anynore. The world's gone mad I tell ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldius View Post
    I remember when a decent integrated included a phono stage and headphone amp. Now we pay separately for them because they're not included anynore. The world's gone mad I tell ya!
    Yes. Some of the better seventies and eighties Japanese integrated amps had surprisingly decent sounding heaphone outputs (and phono stages).

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    I use a Creek OBH11-SE headphone amp, it feeds my HD600 and HD650 very well, really nice, rich sound. The only slight quibble if I had to find one is the power supply is quite a lump but who cares when it's tucked out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldius View Post
    I remember when a decent integrated included a phono stage and headphone amp. Now we pay separately for them because they're not included anynore. The world's gone mad I tell ya!
    They didnít include a headphone amp, just a couple of big resistors leading to a headphone socket, which is incidentally why dedicated units sound better due to a lower output impedance.
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