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    Quote Originally Posted by mightymonoped View Post
    I guess the bit I'm having trouble with is the perceived lack of physical connection between my storage medium and the rest of the chain. In a NAS connected only by Ethernet cable to the audio system, would the difference between SSD and HDD be audible from the packets being transmitted?


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    I dont pretend to know all the variables, but from having tried different combinations (actually, a fair bit...) its my experience it subjectivly makes a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Adds noise, I suppose. Electrical rather than mechanical. Never done the comparison myself mind. I'd be surprised if I could hear its sole contribution but when you consider that every device involved has the potential to add noise to the signal it can all add up unless steps have been taken to ensure they don't.

    Get enough of it and your sending that out with your noughts and ones, into the DAC which adds a bit more, the signal is converted to analogue but it is still just current in a wire and it keeps all that noise with it, through the amplifiers and out of the speakers along with the music. Result is you get a stodgier sound, flatter soundstage, nothing sounds 'real' anymore. Not unpleasant to listen to but not special either.

    I'm theorising here, you understand. Based on my own experiences and what I've read. Don't take that as gospel.
    It is an interesting one! I'm certainly not going to dismiss it either. I did wonder if noise could act as a troublesome unwanted guest in the chain


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    On paper...yes.
    But?

    I dont pretend to know all the variables, but from having tried different combinations (actually, a a fair bit...) its my experience it subjectivly makes a difference.
    Fair do's


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    HDD are a fair bit noisy compared to SSD. They are both electrical but HDD is also mechanical so this probably increases the electrical noise when the drive is operating.

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    Whether the DAC has a data buffer will go some way in mitigation of any difference in any storage types as the data is stored in memory and clocked out to the DACs D/A chip. There was some tests published in a review of Chords DAC 64 and a clear difference in performance was measured when the buffer was activated.

    I think also noise passed on down the chain can make a difference, less noise = better performance. One thing I done was to cut the power wires in my USB cable so that the only connection was the differential data wires. This seemed to help quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I'm making it up as I'm going along, you understand. Based on my own experiences and what I've read. Don't take that as gospel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
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    So what's your take on it then, Chris? Personally I've no doubt that 90% of the things people think matter in digital audio make no difference whatsoever. 'Jitter', 'Bit perfect', 'high resolution' and so on. The things that do matter, like the power supply regulation, no-one seems to be interested in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Actually made the sound worse in my system! I use a fanless PC with solid state drive now, no filters, and my USB output has its own independent power supply, outside of the PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yomanze View Post
    Actually made the sound worse in my system!
    quite.. it just proves every system is gonna be different. what works here might be worse elsewhere. then you have to take the environment and the listener into account.
    all you can do is offer options; its up to people to try them and see i guess.
    many folk saying a pc based system is crap, but ive found it to be fine.

    horses for courses imo.
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