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    Quote Originally Posted by Forane12 View Post
    Not very promising Mine is number 00184 and sure could not be updated... But it s a good DAC, you can use a Linux Rpi for an endpoint and the drivers are Ok. I just had a MicroRendu and it worked right away and improved sound quality quite a lot.
    No help available from M2TECH. There is no firmware update so it's game over.

    Decided I like the sound so much that I'm going to try and pick up an old laptop and run Linux on it.

    That was M2TECH's suggestion
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Wizard Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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    Were they specific about which Linux? There's a heck of a lot of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Were they specific about which Linux? There's a heck of a lot of them.
    They weren't, presume that means any?
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Wizard Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    They weren't, presume that means any?
    In that case, you might find Linux Mint 18.3 (which I think is the latest iteration) easy to use and comprehensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    In that case, you might find Linux Mint 18.3 (which I think is the latest iteration) easy to use and comprehensive.
    Cheers mate, I'm reluctant to run it as a side by side on the laptop I own. I'll see what comes up.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Wizard Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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    If you get a live boot CD, you can run it directly from the CD without installing just to try things out. I've done it loads of times.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Linux-Min...53.m1438.l2649

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    If you get a live boot CD, you can run it directly from the CD without installing just to try things out. I've done it loads of times.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Linux-Min...53.m1438.l2649
    Nice one Geoff. I'll drop them a message and see if Linux mint is compatible.
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Wizard Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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    Oliver,

    another point of view from a Young owner...
    I tried all the inputs and the best sounding was the XLR.

    USB was good, but privy to gremlins like dirty 5V supply, cable quality and the like.
    have hifi n stuff

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    Buy a used Windows 7 laptop from CEX or the like, plenty about. The other suggestion is go down the converter route but keep in mind many use drivers as well and older ones may present you with the same issues being incompatible with Windows 10. I have had some issues with a Windows 8.1 laptop with a few I own, but not so much that they didn't work, this included an older JK converter and funnily enough a Young Converter.

    USB driver compatibility with older USB DACs is not something often mentioned, as is suitability of latest versions of Windows. Of course MAC users will be smug about this, to a degree, but I have read of some issues with recent MACs over older MACS. Don't ask what as I can't recall details as I am not a MAC user.

    Computer audio is a pain in the ass and its issues like this that confirms in my mind to stick with physical media as long as I can, and that said from someone who does have more than a toe dipped into computer/file playback.
    Regards Neil

    System 1 (Living Room) : Vinyl: AMG Giro Turntable, AMG 9W2 Tonearm, AMG Reference Armcable, Air Tight PC3 MC Cartridge PhonoStage: Passlabs Xono Digital: Esoteric P5 SACD Transport and Esoteric P 5 DAC, Sony HAP Z1es Digital File Player + Audioquest Jitter Bug, Computer Audio: Veracity Audio Mystra DAC + HP laptop + iFi Audio i Power, Wireworld Starlight USB + Audioquest Jitter Bug Tuner:Magnum Dynalab MD102 + Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth FM Amplifier Cassette Tape: Nakamichi CR5e Integrated Amplifier: Balanced Audio Technology VK300se Speakers: Anthony Gallo Reference 3.1 Audio Cabling: Signal - Atlas Mavros, Audience AU24 Speaker - Atlas Mavros. Mains Cabling: Audience AU24, Analysis Plus, TCI. Mains Distribution: Mark Grant Distribution Blocks, Mark Grant DC Blocker Equipment Tables: Target Audio B series + Track Audio Isolation Spikes Isolation/ Platforms: Bright Star Audio Isonodes, BASE 01, SSC Platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    Buy a used Windows 7 laptop from CEX or the like, plenty about. The other suggestion is go down the converter route but keep in mind many use drivers as well and older ones may present you with the same issues being incompatible with Windows 10. I have had some issues with a Windows 8.1 laptop with a few I own, but not so much that they didn't work, this included an older JK converter and funnily enough a Young Converter.

    USB driver compatibility with older USB DACs is not something often mentioned, as is suitability of latest versions of Windows. Of course MAC users will be smug about this, to a degree, but I have read of some issues with recent MACs over older MACS. Don't ask what as I can't recall details as I am not a MAC user.

    Computer audio is a pain in the ass and its issues like this that confirms in my mind to stick with physical media as long as I can, and that said from someone who does have more than a toe dipped into computer/file playback.
    Thanks for this.

    I did think I may just build a new set of shelves and get a transport, as is the quality. I'm bowled over by it to be fair. I'm very reluctant to let it go.

    Yes, power running in the same cable as a signal is usually a big no-no.

    Ok, old laptop, cd transport it is.

    Gary, XLR? OK, good job I can make some cables
    Analogue: Technics SP10 MK2 > Phonomac AT-1010 MK5 tonearm > Ortofon Kontrapunkt b > Wizard Jfet MC Valve Phonostage (Telefunken & Tesla Valves)
    Digital: NONE
    Amplification: Nelson Pass DCB1 & Monarchy Audio SM-70 Class A Amplifier
    Cables: Fisual S-Flex Speaker Cable & SPOTFIRE IC Cables & NEW SPOTFIRE Tonearm cable
    Speakers: Pioneer CS-77A

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