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    My volume knob is further round than it's ever been now with the Maggies

    To be honest with the LV's it wasn't much off the stop but now it's about 8/9 o'clock, still not that far but I don't listen at crazy levels anyway
    Bev


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninanina View Post
    My volume knob is further round than it's ever been now with the Maggies
    That's because they're much less efficient than your previous speakers, Bev, and normally partnered, amplifier-wise, by something suitably 'meaty' [or perhaps to you 'cucumbery', lol], such as a Krell

    Like I said before, I'm not a fan of the 'muscle amp'/low-efficiency speaker route, although I'm happy to acknowledge the unique, and musically desirable, abilities of panel speakers.

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

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    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    That's because they're much less efficient than your previous speakers, Bev, and normally partnered, amplifier-wise, by something suitably 'meaty' [or perhaps to you 'cucumbery', lol], such as a Krell

    Like I said before, I'm not a fan of the 'muscle amp'/low-efficiency speaker route, although I'm happy to acknowledge the unique, and musically desirable, abilities of panel speakers.

    Marco.
    When it comes to amplification, are we talking power or current? That s best,or is this another can?
    novafidelity x40 music server/pre/dac, Arcam A39, roksan k3 power amp,Monitor Audio Monitor 50, Dali spektor 1, van damme interconnects and speaker cable, roskan k3 CD player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pieoftheday View Post
    When it comes to amplification, are we talking power or current?
    With Maggies, you probably need a goodly dose of both!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    That's because they're much less efficient than your previous speakers, Bev, and normally partnered, amplifier-wise, by something suitably 'meaty' [or perhaps to you 'cucumbery', lol], such as a Krell

    Like I said before, I'm not a fan of the 'muscle amp'/low-efficiency speaker route, although I'm happy to acknowledge the unique, and musically desirable, abilities of panel speakers.

    Marco.
    As you say Marco yes very much less efficient than the LV's, or any other speakers I've ever owned

    To be honest I am not convinced I need an amp more 'cucumbery' than that I am already using... I will use 'cucumbery again.. like that one

    I would normally be with you on not being a fan of the 'muscle amp/low-efficiency' route having owned amps of less than 10w, and efficient speakers, for the last 15 years ish but the Maggies are a real eye opener at the moment
    Bev


    Mark Levinson N°390s CD Through:Atlas Elektra XLR's To: Mark Levinson N°383 To: Magneplanar .7's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pieoftheday View Post
    When it comes to amplification, are we talking power or current? That s best,or is this another can?
    I have no idea if my amp has a high current or not but it and the Maggies are sounding so good I'm not too concerned at the moment
    Bev


    Mark Levinson N°390s CD Through:Atlas Elektra XLR's To: Mark Levinson N°383 To: Magneplanar .7's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninanina View Post
    I have no idea if my amp has a high current or not but it and the Maggies are sounding so good I'm not too concerned at the moment
    I'm sorry but If you mention any kit In this thread, you have to tell us what It sounds like at low volumes

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatmarley View Post
    I'm sorry but If you mention any kit In this thread, you have to tell us what It sounds like at low volumes
    Well Matt I have the volume pretty low at the moment and the 'kit' still sounds amazing to me

    Does that help ?
    Bev


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    I've read through much of the previous, but I am working so hard at difficult stuff ATM that I am sorry, but I am too tired to fine tooth comb everything and deal with every point.

    What I have stated is only that, not an entire treatise on everything which may affect sound quality at low levels.

    So it seems the claimed phenomenon is a poor performance at lower levels, and this I believe Nelson Pass addressed with First Watt amplifiers. IMD has also been mentioned, and it is subjectively horrible in nature, but objectively measurable.

    The Benchmark amp, which I posted about a while ago is absolutely impeccable from the parameter point of view, and I heard a pair in Feb last year on a £30k pair of JBLs, and could not fault it, and it is SS.

    Andrew's point above corresponds exactly with my points on dynamic range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninanina View Post
    Well Matt I have the volume pretty low at the moment and the 'kit' still sounds amazing to me

    Does that help ?
    Yes thanks.

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