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    I'm talking about for bookshelf speakers, just bought a pair of Spendor s3/5r, only 30cm tall, why can't they just sit on my Ikea Kallax shelf?
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    They can. Speaker stands are foo. I've been saying this for years but no-one listens.
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    Try sticking the Spendors on the floor and see how they sound then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    I'm talking about for bookshelf speakers, just bought a pair of Spendor s3/5r, only 30cm tall, why can't they just sit on my Ikea Kallax shelf?
    I have my Wharfedale Diamond 9.1's on stands because I don't have a shelf.....
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    Try a pair of stands designed for Linn Kan or LS3/5a speakers. Should be about right.

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    You can put them on the Ikea shelf if you want to and no need to worry about being arrested by the Hi-Fi Police. But is the shelf in the right place to get decent sound? If the shelf is to one side of your listening position you'll get all the sound into one lughole

    The primary function of stands is to get the speakers in front of you, at a sensible height, and at a sensible distance from you and each other. Then you can fine-tune the position to get them the right distance from the back wall and side walls. "Right" in this context means whatever sounds best to you in your room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    They can. Speaker stands are foo. I've been saying this for years but no-one listens.
    Lol - bollocks!

    Firstly, with most so-called 'bookshelf' speakers, in order to hear them properly, it's vital to have the tweeters at ear height (from the listening position), and the chances of achieving that by placing them on a bookshelf are virtually nil.

    Secondly, is the question of isolation from the floor, in order to prevent the cabinets from picking up unwanted external vibrations, which will simply serve to colour the sound the drive units produce, then a properly-designed and well-built pair of stands will successfully address that issue.

    Thirdly, you wouldn't like the sound of my Tannoys, placed directly on the floor in my room, in comparison with how they sound on their Mana platforms, because of what I've just outlined above, as even though they're far from being stand-mounted designs, the horn tweeters in the DC drive units benefit massively from being heard at ear level.

    In that respect, there's a very distinct sweet spot for optimum listening!

    So.... Speaker stands can do a vital job in a hi-fi system, no doubt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Secondly, is the question of isolation from the floor, in order to prevent the cabinets from picking up unwanted vibrations, which simply serve to colour the sound.
    eh? Aren't the vibrations coming from the cabinets in the first place? As for isolation, most stands don't do any isolating at all.

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    You need them to get the things at the right height, agreed. A couple of three legged stools will do that. The idea that you need 2 grand (or more) worth of specially designed 'speaker-floor interfaces' is the bit that is bollocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    eh? Aren't the vibrations coming from the cabinets in the first place? As for isolation, most stands don't do any isolating at all.
    Yes of course, but you don't want any influence from that also coming from the floor, as it will further muddy the sound. Almost all stand-mounted speakers I've heard, when just plonked onto the floor, sound boomy in the bass, and rather 'one note' and un-tuneful there, with it.

    I disagree about isolating (or decoupling for that matter); it all depends on how the stands in question are designed. Good ones, including their equipment support counterparts, help address how detrimental the effects of the surrounding environment can be to sensitive audio equipment.

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