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    What's wrong with being a hoarder anyway? So what if you have piles of crap half-way to the ceiling and little gunnels in amongst it so you can get from one room to the other? Your house, your life, your choice.

    You are not conforming to societal norms! Oh no! Does anyone really give a shit? And if they do are they not the one with the problem?

    Worst case I ever saw was at the house of a friend's mother on the south coast. You got a taste for what was to come in the entrance hall. This had been lined with crudely made bookshelves from floor to ceiling which held VHS tapes of what, at the time, was pretty much every Dr Who episode ever. Rooms were piled with crap, mainly old newspapers and magazines, to about 5 feet in height. The only place you could move about a bit was in the kitchen and the cellar. None of this bothered me, the deal breaker for me was that they had a baby and it had crapped everywhere and they had not cleaned it up. Now that was nasty.
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    Am I a hoarder?

    Definitely not

    I'm an advanced hoarder
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    I remember this when it was first on TV

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    I'm a box swapper.
    I swap.
    If a new toy comes in, you can be reasonably sure that something else will go.
    The idea of keeping stuff I've done with is baffling to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    I'm a box swapper.
    Are you? Can't say I'd noticed mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    What's wrong with being a hoarder anyway? So what if you have piles of crap half-way to the ceiling and little gunnels in amongst it so you can get from one room to the other? Your house, your life, your choice.

    You are not conforming to societal norms! Oh no! Does anyone really give a shit? And if they do are they not the one with the problem?

    Worst case I ever saw was at the house of a friend's mother on the south coast. You got a taste for what was to come in the entrance hall. This had been lined with crudely made bookshelves from floor to ceiling which held VHS tapes of what, at the time, was pretty much every Dr Who episode ever. Rooms were piled with crap, mainly old newspapers and magazines, to about 5 feet in height. The only place you could move about a bit was in the kitchen and the cellar. None of this bothered me, the deal breaker for me was that they had a baby and it had crapped everywhere and they had not cleaned it up. Now that was nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    What's wrong with being a hoarder anyway? So what if you have piles of crap half-way to the ceiling and little gunnels in amongst it so you can get from one room to the other? Your house, your life, your choice.

    You are not conforming to societal norms! Oh no! Does anyone really give a shit? And if they do are they not the one with the problem?
    Indeed, and I completely agree. However... The key point is whether or not the 'hoarder' in question, deep down, is GENUINELY HAPPY with that state of affairs, or whether it's a reflection of the opposite and perhaps indicates a form of depression, or some other psychological condition? If they're genuinely happy, then there's nothing more to discuss.

    However, often I find that folk with exceptionally mucky and untidy homes aren't happy within themselves, and so the mess is a refection of how they feel about their lives (often they may not even realise that), but on the outside try to kid themselves on (and others) that all is well and that they're just a 'bit quirky'... If that's the case, then they *do* have a problem.

    Plus, when the untidiness and mess gets to such an extent that you can hardly move for it, or clearing it up would involve major work, it's difficult to motivate yourself to tackle the problem, and much easier just to block it out and pretend that it doesn't exist [or keep putting off the task of tidying it for another day that never comes] - but you can bet your boots that if a team of cleaners knocked on the door and offered to clear it up for free, most would jump at the chance, and afterwards feel much better for it!!

    Which goes to show that, despite what they might've said (and the 'front' that they were putting on), they weren't happy in the first place The fact is, living amongst lots of mess would get most people down, as it unquestionably causes stress, so if you're honest with yourself, don't deny it; do something about it, and in most cases, change your life for the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed, and I completely agree. However... The key point is whether or not the 'hoarder' in question, deep down, is GENUINELY HAPPY with that state of affairs, or whether it's a reflection of the opposite and perhaps indicates a form of depression, or some other psychological condition? If they're genuinely happy, then there's nothing more to discuss.

    However, often I find that folk with exceptionally mucky and untidy homes aren't happy within themselves, and so the mess is a refection of how they feel about themselves and their lives (often they may not even realise it), but on the outside try to kid themselves on (and others) that all is well and that they're just a 'bit quirky'... If that's the case, then they *do* have a problem.

    Plus, when the untidiness and mess gets to such an extent that you can hardly move for it, or clearing it up would involve major work, it's difficult to motivate yourself to tackle the problem, and much easier just to pretend that it doesn't exist [or keep putting the task off for another day that never comes] - but you can bet your boots that if a team of cleaners knocked on the door and offered to clear it up for free, most would jump at the chance, and afterwards feel much better for it!!

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    Actually if you watch any of these hoarder shows (like the one Alex posted a link to earlier) you'd see that is not always the case. People get attached to their junk and don't want to lose it or have it cleared up. That actually causes them stress. They might have a problem but that is their business, unless it becomes a problem for someone else, a health or safety hazard for example. Otherwise it isn't for anyone else pass judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Actually if you watch any of these hoarder shows (like the one Alex posted a link to earlier) you'd see that is not always the case. People get attached to their junk and don't want to lose it or have it cleared up. That actually causes them stress. They might have a problem but that is their business, unless it becomes a problem for someone else, a health or safety hazard for example. Otherwise it isn't for anyone else pass judgement.
    Indeed, but often too (as I've watched those programmes), they're relived when someone has tidied up the mess, and given them a clean 'blank canvas', from which to maintain a tidy home in future. That often happens, and they're much happier for the experience; in fact it's often life-changing for them!

    Like I said, it's ALL about whether the person involved is genuinely happy with their 'hoarding'. Sometimes they're kidding themselves on, when they say that they are, as it's natural to find it difficult sometimes to admit/confront, and then deal with, a very real problem.

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    Yes, there is a conflict between wanting to live 'normally' and the emotional attachment to all the crap. However I'm not keen on the idea that people should be compelled to do something that is against their wishes because 'It is for their own good.' Even if it is.
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