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    try a nad c350 amp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy1 View Post
    Hi Steve. I have taken the plunge myself and bought a pair of DM7 Mk1's. I'm now facing the same challenge of finding something to drive them..
    I ve looked at loads of stuff but just feel I need more power.. much more power. Maybe a musical fidelity a5..? I am tempted to find something vintage to join them. I am on a budget though. I'd be interested to know where your amp search has taken you so far!
    Always loved these speakers! 😀
    Hi Andy,
    I must admit I haven't looked into suitable amps too much ... was going cross that hurdle if/when I bought the DM7s. I do like classic British kit and was wondering if a Quad 405 might just about be up to the task? ... others with more knowledge than I please chime in

    Btw, did you buy the pair of DM7s in Peterborough? ... photos looked ok but too far from me to go looksee
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    they are pretty good speakers if driven well. need a powerful amp with grip tho. plenty good reviews out there if you look. looking at 2/3k value speaker if made today
    Yes, I've read some of the better reviews and heard more positive comments from happy owners of the DM7; thanks Grant
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    I'm very sorry and apologise if my comments have caused distress. I genuinely do not want to upset anyone. However, I thought it woyld be useful to let members know what I know. I definately recall Hifi choice panning these speakers in around '79 -81 in one of their little tests books of the time. Perhaps someone has the review - it went something along the lines of 'for all the high tech input into this design, it remains a dissapointing performance - or something like this. I loved the look of this speaker - I loved the superb build quality as well but it would appear that in terms of performance they were eclipsed by speakers made by virtually cottage industry speaker companies - box stuffers if you will. These companies using bought in drivers with nowhere near the resources of B & W at the time got best buy reviews in the issue of that Choice issue and their speakers of similar spec and size were around 25% - 30% less retail price than DM7. I tried to sell DM 7 back in the late 70's - early 80's but could not sell them because they were outperformed by similar sized but cheaper speakers from box stuffer manufacturers. I myself bought an immaculate pair a few years ago to try and reconcile with this model but I have to admit that they were as much a dissappointment second time round as they were the first. I just wish they performed better because I love the looks and build is second to none. However, they were eclipsed then by cheaper similar sized speakers from box stuffers and they are undoubtedly now not even performing to original spec. Perhaps someone has the original review fron Hifi choice. Love to read it again. Once again, many apologises if I came across as confrontational - not intentional at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57charles View Post
    I'm very sorry and apologise if my comments have caused distress. I genuinely do not want to upset anyone. However, I thought it woyld be useful to let members know what I know. I definately recall Hifi choice panning these speakers in around '79 -81 in one of their little tests books of the time. Perhaps someone has the review - it went something along the lines of 'for all the high tech input into this design, it remains a dissapointing performance - or something like this. I loved the look of this speaker - I loved the superb build quality as well but it would appear that in terms of performance they were eclipsed by speakers made by virtually cottage industry speaker companies - box stuffers if you will. These companies using bought in drivers with nowhere near the resources of B & W at the time got best buy reviews in the issue of that Choice issue and their speakers of similar spec and size were around 25% - 30% less retail price than DM7. I tried to sell DM 7 back in the late 70's - early 80's but could not sell them because they were outperformed by similar sized but cheaper speakers from box stuffer manufacturers. I myself bought an immaculate pair a few years ago to try and reconcile with this model but I have to admit that they were as much a dissappointment second time round as they were the first. I just wish they performed better because I love the looks and build is second to none. However, they were eclipsed then by cheaper similar sized speakers from box stuffers and they are undoubtedly now not even performing to original spec. Perhaps someone has the original review fron Hifi choice. Love to read it again. Once again, many apologises if I came across as confrontational - not intentional at all.
    Superb post Charles. Your experience really shone through. Articulated and precise.

    More of that please.
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    I'm guessing you don't like them Charles.

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    Love the looks - especially the mk1 and the build quality is beyond reproach but they just never sounded 'right' to my ears compared to the myriad of contempary models from the extraordinary number of speaker producers at that time. We were certainly spoilt for choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Superb post Charles. Your experience really shone through. Articulated and precise.

    More of that please.
    Yes, much better! Stick to discussing the subject, not the poster, and in the process refrain from being judgmental of other people's opinions or decisions, which are contrary to yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57charles View Post
    I definately recall Hifi choice panning these speakers in around '79 -81 in one of their little tests books of the time. Perhaps someone has the review - it went something along the lines of 'for all the high tech input into this design, it remains a dissapointing performance - or something like this.
    Just for balance, it might be worth remembering that not everyone may agree with these reviews. I have the A5 Hi-Fi Choice that contains the review of the Sony PS-B80 Biotracer turntable and the conslusion is predictably along the lines of "you're paying for all the technology but it doesn't sound that great". Er, actually, to my ears and to the ears of more than a few people I know, it does!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
    Just for balance, it might be worth remembering that not everyone may agree with these reviews...
    Exactly, Adam. Let's remember that subjective reviews, whether printed in magazines or posted on forums, aren't proof of anything, other than the basis upon which the opinions of the reviewer were formed!

    Ultimately, the only opinion that matters belongs to the owner of the item(s) concerned [in this case speakers], and whose ears are doing the listening.

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