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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Starbucks has opened an absolutely amazing coffee shop in Milano.
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    Now, there are two words you rarely see in a sentence together - “amazing” and “Starbucks”. Unless of course other words like “bad” and “how they get away with serving up such swill” are involved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Personally I still feel the continental culture and approach around coffee and especially in Italy is the benchmark and most of the coffee out there seems to be in independent cafes. The large chains have found it an almost impossible market to move into although Starbucks has opened an absolutely amazing coffee shop in Milano.

    For what its worth my all time favourite coffee is Lavazza's Crema e Aroma £13 for 1kg off Amazon.
    I agree, although the Spanish, Portuguese, Turks and Austrians aren't too shabby at it either! However, for me, the whole experience you get, along with the quality of coffee (and food/pastries) served in traditional Italian caffès, such as shown below in the Sciascia Caffè in Rome, is where it's *at*. Quite simply, they do it with a level of love, style and panache that is second to none:

    http://sciasciacaffe1919.it/

    Make sure you play the video!

    I also agree about Crema e Aroma. It's excellent, although I'm currently experimenting with others. If I'm to become more experienced with coffee (and consider myself as any kind of connoisseur), I need to familiarise myself with various different beans, to get a proper handle on all the different flavours, which I will be doing in due course.

    At the moment however, I just want to discover my 'go to' favourites, so I can always return to something I really enjoy!

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    From the Sciascia caffè website:

    "Il caffè, per esser buono, deve essere nero come la notte, caldo come l'inferno e dolce come l'amore."

    Translated into English: "Coffee, to be good, needs to be black like night, hot as an inferno and sweet like love."

    Only Italians can make coffee sound *that* sexy!!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Made a mess of this one but crema is spot on

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    Yeah mate, that looks great!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Now that I do agree with Marco regarding the whole experience on the continent, Italy especially. Most everything about how they do coffee is different, cakes and pastries too, we do put up with some very mediocre fare from the chains. I think there is a tide of change though, with more and more independents (and roasters) popping up all the time. That's very welcome.

    I'm quite a hipster coffee fan, although some of the brews I've had can be too light and delicate, as I like black, strong and hot too.

    When I get moved again and finally sorted, a fancy espresso machine will be high up my list of must haves. I'm rather partial to these



    The Londinium R on the left - I love lever pull style machines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    Now that I do agree with Marco regarding the whole experience on the continent, Italy especially. Most everything about how they do coffee is different, cakes and pastries too, we do put up with some very mediocre fare from the chains. I think there is a tide of change though, with more and more independents (and roasters) popping up all the time. That's very welcome.

    I'm quite a hipster coffee fan, although some of the brews I've had can be too light and delicate, as I like black, strong and hot too.

    When I get moved again and finally sorted, a fancy espresso machine will be high up my list of must haves. I'm rather partial to these



    The Londinium R on the left - I love lever pull style machines
    I'll have to get a new one myself soon i think. mine is still working but its showing its age, and if you dont know its peculiarities it dont work so well. wont be an uber expensive one tho. dont think they are worth it, even if i could afford one unless your making a lot of the stuff.
    Xmas is coming so the family may well chip in with cash for pressies
    Regards,
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Mine was expensive, but comes with stainless steel boilers etc.
    It is a long term investment for me, as I should never have to replace it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Mine was expensive, but comes with stainless steel boilers etc.
    It is a long term investment for me, as I should never have to replace it.
    That's my MO too Cagey, once I get one that's it, I don't ever want to have to replace it. I'll expect it to outlive me and like audio, I don't really enjoy box swapping . . . far too stressful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
    Now, there are two words you rarely see in a sentence together - “amazing” and “Starbucks”. Unless of course other words like “bad” and “how they get away with serving up such swill” are involved!

    ;o)
    The coffee shop itself is stunning but as you say not sure about the coffee!
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