Half speed mastering

**Bksabath** · 09-12-2018, 12:14

If you believe at that bullshit you have to listen to the Free Fire and Water Rip off
I don't have the catalog number of the Abbey Road as I have returned it
but I I said on this forum the old Catalog ILPS 9120 sound much better

If they did the best they could why the run off at the end of the album is so huge?

Again, to you all in general could you please post the catalog numbers it does not take much effort as you got the album there, that is if you really got it like

**Dr Winston O Boogie** · 09-12-2018, 19:47

Originally Posted by Bksabath

If you believe at that bullshit you have to listen to the Free Fire and Water Rip off
I don't have the catalog number of the Abbey Road as I have returned it
but I I said on this forum the old Catalog ILPS 9120 sound much better

If they did the best they could why the run off at the end of the album is so huge?

Again, to you all in general could you please post the catalog numbers it does not take much effort as you got the album there, that is if you really got it like

As soon as I can get near my copy I will post numbers.

Free Fire & Water halfspeed sounds jaw droppingly good?

**Bksabath** · 10-12-2018, 05:49

The Abbey Road Fire and Water half speed sound like just a copy of a bad CD and the certificate is not good to use as toilet paper

**paulf-2007** · 10-12-2018, 16:25

Originally Posted by Pete The Cat

I bought Deep Purple's "Fireball" half speed which was released on 22nd November. By now I must have put Ian Paice's children and grandchildren through school after buying multiple copies of their '70s albums.

It's three dimensional compared with the somewhat flat Friday Music reissue and without the compression of the 25th anniversary CD. Still about the same as the original vinyl, mind. It's a very well recorded and produced record given that it was released in '71, sounding better than many of today's albums.

Pete

What a drummer, one of my favourites. I've been pondering buying fireball, may leave it until after the Christmas madness.

**Stratmangler** · 10-12-2018, 17:42

Originally Posted by Bksabath

The Abbey Road Fire and Water half speed sound like just a copy of a bad CD and the certificate is not good to use as toilet paper

You've been on (and on, and on....) about this at great length.

Abbey Road studios worked with the master they were given to work with.
They were not given a stereo master tape. They were given the master files (ie WAV files) to work with. Abbey Road Studios did not do any transfers from tape for the project.
Someone else did all of the work before Abbey Road Studios got hold of the master files. The record company that has the rights to the material, and the surviving band members are happy with the mastering work that was handed over to Abbey Road Studios to be cut to lacquer.

The lacquers were cut at half speed using the methods outlined.
The certificate does not make any great claim about anything.

You should read this, paying particular attention to questions 4 & 5 https://shop.abbeyroad.com/Music/Vin...er/4ZB70CAC0KX

**Dr Winston O Boogie** · 10-12-2018, 20:10

Originally Posted by Stratmangler

You've been on (and on, and on....) about this at great length.

Abbey Road studios worked with the master they were given to work with.
They were not given a stereo master tape. They were given the master files (ie WAV files) to work with. Abbey Road Studios did not do any transfers from tape for the project.
Someone else did all of the work before Abbey Road Studios got hold of the master files. The record company that has the rights to the material, and the surviving band members are happy with the mastering work that was handed over to Abbey Road Studios to be cut to lacquer.

The lacquers were cut at half speed using the methods outlined.
The certificate does not make any great claim about anything.

You should read this, paying particular attention to questions 4 & 5 https://shop.abbeyroad.com/Music/Vin...er/4ZB70CAC0KX

I knew I had seen that artical somewhere, thanks Chris.

**Stratmangler** · 10-12-2018, 21:59

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie

I knew I had seen that artical somewhere, thanks Chris.

You're welcome

One where they had an original stereo master tape was John Martyn's Solid Air, which IMO is stunning
https://shop.abbeyroad.com/Music/Vin...ir/4ZB80CAC0KX

**Bksabath** · 10-12-2018, 22:32

Transform difficult to cut Bla bla bla there isn't any on a flipping wav file

Master of highest quality ? explain the huge run off

The certificate paper is to thick and quite rough

Solid air may be a good one

Fire an water is not

end of story for me

**Stratmangler** · 10-12-2018, 22:43

Originally Posted by Bksabath

Transform difficult to cut Bla bla bla there isn't any on a flipping wav file

Master of highest quality ? explain the huge run off

The certificate paper is to thick and quite rough

Solid air may be a good one

Fire an water is not

end of story for me

You're adding lots of words and alleged claims that just aren't being made.
And the bit about "The certificate paper is too thick and quite rough" is, quite frankly, a somewhat childish and petty comment.
We've heard you lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of times moaning about it - it's about time you moved on with it.

We get that you don't like it.
You don't have to go on about it ad nauseum.

**Bksabath** · 11-12-2018, 12:24

DO you work for Abbey road ?

This is the only thing that would explain you ganging up on me

What is wrong whit asking you or any whit a bit of brain to explain the huge run off ?

I am only following on as it is polite to reply to post directed at me

As You say I put forward the FACT that the fire and water is a turd in nice packaging and the Abbey road is only a marketing exercise
It is a FACT that an old original copy sound much better

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