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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    In your opinion is it worth trying an ECC83S James ?
    Definitely Brian, they are not expensive.
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    Got a link please ?
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    Here you go mate, cheap as chips!
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    Thanks James , you're a gent
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    Just had chance to try a nice NOS Raytheon 12BH7a in the Croft 25R+ line stage. Big rich soundstage with great detail and a tad more warmth than the Brimar. Listening with the 2M Black on the front end gives a great analogue experience.

    So after trying a Westinghouse, Brimar, GE, RCA and now a Raytheon I would say my preference would be for the RCA. This 12BH7a has everything. Unfortunately mine is coming to the end of its life so now need to source another beauty.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

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    That's a good list of contenders mate. I shan't be participating because the Telefunkens are doing the business for me.

    That croft set up is a beauty. I'm half tempted to see if the phonostage in the pre is available as a separate unit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    That's a good list of contenders mate. I shan't be participating because the Telefunkens are doing the business for me.

    That croft set up is a beauty. I'm half tempted to see if the phonostage in the pre is available as a separate unit

    O

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    The phono stage in the pre is available separately as the RIAA or RIAA R or RIAA RS (two box with separate p/s).
    All the separate phono stages are better than mine in the 25R preamp! They have a more sophisticated set up with three valves. Glenn said there was more space in the separate phono stage to do a better job!

    Personally I would go for the RIAA R regulated phono stage. All valve of course, so plenty to play around with. Think there are 5 valves in this phono.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    The phono stage in the pre is available separately as the RIAA or RIAA R or RIAA RS (two box with separate p/s).
    All the separate phono stages are better than mine in the 25R preamp! They have a more sophisticated set up with three valves. Glenn said there was more space in the separate phono stage to do a better job!

    Personally I would go for the RIAA R regulated phono stage. All valve of course, so plenty to play around with. Think there are 5 valves in this phono.
    As with everything, it'll come down to price but thanks for the info Jim, it's food for thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    As with everything, it'll come down to price but thanks for the info Jim, it's food for thought!

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    Plenty of tube rolling opportunities in the RIAA R!
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Plenty of tube rolling opportunities in the RIAA R!
    Just had look............I'll wait for a second hand one 🤣

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