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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    The bitrate for Prime Music is 320kbps MP3 is this any good ?
    Amazon streams at up to 256k AAC which generally is better than 320k MP3. For comparison Spotify streams at 320k OGG. All of it will sound 'good' - and will be enhanced with a decent DAC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    The bitrate for Prime Music is 320kbps MP3 is this any good ?
    Be fine, I listen to a few radio streams that only give 128 and some are outstanding, if you want a listen to a really good 128kbps stream try Space Station Soma ( Electronic ) or at 192kbps try Blues Radio Athens to show what lower bitrates can do.

    I don't know why they sound better than other streams at the same bitrate but they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    It's all he needs and on budget. He has a laptop. It's a very good dac
    sorry Grant, a laptop - even a Mac - is a crappy DAC.

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    I beg to differ and a few in here will agree with me it's a very good dac
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    I guess it depends to what you compare it to

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    In truth the DACs in most laptops are more than up to the job in hand.

    Where things fall down is in a couple of areas.
    The analogue output stage can usually be bettered, and on top of that you're likely have some switching noise contamination over the audio circuitry. It will be very low in amplitude, but it will be there.

    Irrespective of all of this, a laptop hooked up to an amplifier is a decent enough way to get to grips with streaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    In truth the DACs in most laptops are more than up to the job in hand.

    Where things fall down is in a couple of areas.
    The analogue output stage can usually be bettered, and on top of that you're likely have some switching noise contamination over the audio circuitry. It will be very low in amplitude, but it will be there.

    Irrespective of all of this, a laptop hooked up to an amplifier is a decent enough way to get to grips with streaming.
    ^^^ ditto ^^^

    And, assuming one has a laptop or old computer, it is effectively free to dip one's toes into the streaming world. Well perhaps only for some cables costing a few quid.
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    I was suggesting putting a dac inbetween both. Stream with laptop to dac. 100 or so and your there as he has a lappy and amp. Spotify sounds fine this way and was what the guy asked for
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    Just bear in mind that streaming from Spotify, TIDAL etc. means that certain tracks (like from Universal Music Group) will be watermarked, which *can* be audible. Sometimes you'll notice subtle distortions from streaming that you don't notice on CD. Thus, don't tear your hair out thinking there's something up with your system if you hear it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeandvan View Post
    Currently play just vinyl and CD. Want to try streaming, that is downloading music from the internet! I have a laptop, but no idea how to go about all this. Do I need a streamer? My amp is naim 72, so pre digital, so guess I'll need a dac?! Was thinking about getting a Sony 700 or similar, do these have dacs? So with these 2 amps in mind, how do I go about this? Sorry for my complete ignorance........... Budget? Well, normally buy second hand, so I guess 100 - 300. Ta.
    Mike,

    If you are still searching for a solution I have two items which might meet your needs.

    The first is a Musical Fidelity V-Dac https://www.whathifi.com/musical-fidelity/v-dac/review
    The second is an HRT Music Streamer II https://www.whathifi.com/hrt/music-streamer-ii/review

    Both are simple in use and plug into your PC usb port at one end and your amplifiers rca input at the other end. Both devices are in excellent condition and would be well within your budget. PM if you are interested in either.

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