Shame about letting the Colston 4 off though.
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Shame about letting the Colston 4 off though.
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Yes a bit of jail time would have been good for them. Might have made them grow up a bit.
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little pricks need a lesson. thats whats wrong with this country. they got away with their behaviour
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They should have received 'Shwedentrunk'!
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got a vague idea what that is but it is breakfast time and we are British!Originally Posted by walpurgis
well, some are
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Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
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got a vague idea what that is but it is breakfast time and we are British!
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Maybe Colston himself should have received 'Shwedentrunk', made from those whom he regarded and treated as a commodity.
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What Colston did is a separate issue though. He lived in an age where slavery was normalised right across the globe.
The crime here was criminal damage, and there's no question that there was criminal damage and there should be consequences for that. It doesn't make it okay just because the target was a statue of someone who engaged in the slave trade. That's irrelevant.
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a good article here on how all is not so simple... american slaves who went to Liberia and some enslaved the locals.. Just one of the points
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...on-mississippi
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Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
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The statue was erected to celebrate Colston's philanthropy in Bristol. The source of his philanthropy was conveniently not mentioned on the plaque on the statue's plinth. But for those who do know about the history and for those of African heritage, the presence of a public statue must have appeared to be an obscenity.
There have been numerous petitions to have the statue removed - all were rejected by the City Council. Yes it was criminal damage and the 'Colston 4' received a trial by jury. The jury returned a verdict of not guilty. I don't regard it as a shame: if anything it has opened up a discussion on who and why we should celebrate with a public statue.
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