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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    The sitcom relationship is comical because the idea (especially pre 1980s) of the woman being the dominant force in the relationship was absurd and hen-pecked husbands are intrinsic figures of fun.
    Funny then how I saw it regularly being lived out in front of my eyes when I was a kid and teenager, going round to the houses of my British (Scottish) friends - and how the male/female relationship of their parents, in terms of who was 'in charge', was markedly different from what I experienced at home?

    What was it like in your house, in terms of that, when you were a kid: did your parents treat each other as equals, or did one like to think that they were 'the boss', and therefore made all or most of the decisions? For me also, although henpecked husbands were undoubtedly figures of fun in sitcoms, it also largely reflected real life. Like you say, if it had been the other way round, it wouldn't have been funny, so that's why it wasn't done. It wasn't that henpecked husbands weren't in fact a very real phenomenon!

    In my job as a salesman, selling all sorts of stuff, over many years to couples living together, married or otherwise, if I'd earned a pound every time I made a sale, where quite clearly, the woman turned out to be the decision maker at home, I can tell you I'd be much richer than if I'd applied the same to the men!

    It'd be interesting to hear Pigmy's take on this, as he'll be used to similar, when out selling PVC windows. doors and conservatories... And in his experience, who generally gets their own way more, the lady of the house or the man?

    Anyway, I suspect we'll just have to agree to disagree on this, which is absolutely fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Funny how then I saw it regularly being lived out in front of my eyes when I was a kid and teenager, going round to the houses of my British friends - and how the male/female relationship of their parents, in terms of who was 'in charge', was markedly different from what I experienced at home?

    What was it like in your house, in terms of that, when you were a kid: did your parents treat each other as equals, or did one like to think that they were 'the boss', and therefore made all or most of the decisions?
    My mother would nag and complain incessantly, my father would mostly ignore her. Make of that what you will. There was rarely any spare money so no decisions about what to spend it on had to be made in any case.


    Regardless of culture I'd say that in general women have a very clear idea of what they want. Men are generally happy to go along with that, not just for an easy life but because they really are not bothered what colour the kitchen worktops are or where to go on holiday. They might have a preference but not so much as the woman for whom such things are a much bigger deal.


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    my parents were very much equals. sure they argued but no-one had the upper hand. some jobs were obviously more done by one or other tho.if my dad wanted something he would most likely get it. mum wanted less for herself in general i think being a mum, but got anything she wanted too, as long as we could afford it of course.
    my dad, or mum wouldnt dare order the other about.
    i was the same with wife mostly too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Regardless of culture I'd say that in general women have a very clear idea of what they want. Men are generally happy to go along with that, not just for an easy life but because they really are not bothered what colour the kitchen worktops are or where to go on holiday. They might have a preference but not so much as the woman for whom such things are a much bigger deal.
    Well, quite. For most blokes, a chair is just something to sit on; as long as it's comfortable, the colour is irrelevant. It's mainly women who spend hours/days/weeks trying to decide exactly what chair to get, in which fabric. The same with clothes. For blokes, it's usually a case of 'these keks are falling to bits, I need to get a new pair', and also usually a case of buying the same or as near as dammit to what needs replacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    My mother would nag and complain incessantly, my father would mostly ignore her. Make of that what you will. There was rarely any spare money so no decisions about what to spend it on had to be made in any case.
    Lol - that must've been a nightmare to have had to sit and listen to! What was she so unhappy about?

    *So* very different from how I grew up... My mum very rarely nagged, and generally was as happy as a pig in shit, simply being the archetypal/textbook housewife and mother, and revelling in the role. Yes, my parents had arguments, quite often heated ones (as both were strong-minded, fiery 'latin types'), but 90% of the time, the atmosphere was relaxed and convivial.

    Generally how it was for me, was that mum would be 'in charge' of the house, especially the kitchen, which was fiercely 'her domain' (and that's exactly how *she* wanted it, not necessarily my dad, but he of course happily went along with that, especially as she was such a good cook!) including paying the household bills, doing the food shopping and (mostly) looking after me.

    Dad would mostly be 'in charge' of the garden, the garage, where all his tools were (gardening and woodwork), and anything to do with the car or the running of the business - but - if necessary those things were still discussed between them, so it was very much a partnership, and therefore formed what I expected later in my life from a marriage or relationship.

    Regardless of culture I'd say that in general women have a very clear idea of what they want. Men are generally happy to go along with that, not just for an easy life but because they really are not bothered what colour the kitchen worktops are or where to go on holiday. They might have a preference but not so much as the woman for whom such things are a much bigger deal.
    Yes that's true, but I'd still argue that, in general, British males tend to like being 'mothered' more, and so are more tolerant/willing to put up with the behaviour of a bossy wife or partner. Btw, you should've seen the disputes Del and I had when we were designing the new kitchen from scratch!

    Being very much into art and design (interior or otherwise), I 'care' just as much about such things as she does (and am not bad at it/have a decent 'eye', as it were), even though she has a degree in the subject! However, we thrash out our ideas together and eventually reach a decision that we're BOTH happy with, as I have to live with it as much as she does - arguably more, as I'm at home more than she is - plus, it's me who cleans the house!

    So.... It's all about working together as a team, not one person riding roughshod over the other, or 'bossing' the other around. That, for me, is the norm, and so I can't understand why anyone, man or woman, would settle for anything less from a relationship

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    my parents were very much equals. sure they argued but no-one had the upper hand. some jobs were obviously more done by one or other tho.if my dad wanted something he would most likely get it. mum wanted less for herself in general i think being a mum, but got anything she wanted too, as long as we could afford it of course.
    my dad, or mum wouldnt dare order the other about.
    i was the same with wife mostly too.
    We're on the same page there mate, much as I would've expected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    Well, quite. For most blokes, a chair is just something to sit on; as long as it's comfortable, the colour is irrelevant. It's mainly women who spend hours/days/weeks trying to decide exactly what chair to get, in which fabric.


    Erm, no, not necessarily, certainly not in my case. Sorry, but that's a rather old-fashioned (and outdated) viewpoint!

    Macca knows from the discussions in the mod room at the time our new kitchen was being done, how involved I was in the process. Del and I spent DAYS deciding on the colour of paint for the walls, and also the units, and even the handles on the drawers (as everything was bespoke made), not to mention anything else!

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    I was exaggerating for comic effect, but, broadly speaking, I don't have a particularly good 'eye' for colour, and I'm not much cop at visualising what a room will look like with different furniture or a different arrangement of furniture, so I leave the important decisions on that to Caroline (though it's usually me who does the actual decorating, as she's not much cop at transferring paint from brush to wall).

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    No worries... And quite right too, if she's much better at it than you. That's another thing that's key to a successful relationship: always embrace and accept your limitations! But also recognise and put into practice what you're good at.

    A bugbear of mine is guys trying to kid themselves on that they're good at DIY, simply because it's considered as 'manly', and so taking on jobs that they're clearly incapable of doing and making a total ARSE/pig's ear of it... That situation is made worse, when the goal was to save money from employing the services of a professional, as it usually ends up costing more to fix the subsequent mess!!

    I'll do what jobs I can comfortably perform to an acceptable standard. Anything else, and I'll seek the necessary assistance. Quite simply, if you can't do a job to the same standard as a professional tradesman, then in the long run, it's a false economy. And I cannot abide 'bodges'!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol - that must've been a nightmare to have had to sit and listen to! What was she so unhappy about?
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    God alone knows. I moved out the day after I finished my A levels. I had a countdown going for the last six months.

    My mother didn't go in for mothering or cooking or any of that stuff. She liked going to the shops and talking to her friends. Anything that took time away from doing that was a negative to her. My father was overseas a lot, but when he was home his attitude was that you had to work out your problems for yourself so don't come bothering him with anything. So we were left to our own devices pretty much.
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