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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    I don't see how comparisons can be made between poverty 50 or 60 years ago and poverty today. Things that may have been seen as luxuries back then have since become essentials, such as a TV and a car. Back then poverty would have meant not putting food on the table, where now it means having to choose between food on the table or a smartphone, an Xbox and a big telly to play it on.
    ..and you don't think that there are families in the UK today who have one or two members in full time work and still can't put sufficient (decent) food on the table?

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    You know, although I assert that a lot of the top 40 of the 60's onwards was crap: I still have a soft spot for good hummable tunes. I still get a stupid smile when I hear tunes from Hermans Hermits, DDDBM&T, the Tremeloes, the DC5 and so on. A good tune is a good tune!

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    Why would it matter which year you were born? You wouldn't remember any of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    I don't want to divert this thread further: my comment was a response to the suggestion that poverty is a driver of great music. My position was that most of the music of the 60's onwards has not been driven by poverty but that the current environment may see that change. !
    Actually I'd say the principle drivers of great music, art and literature -assuming the talent is there to begin with - are sex, alcohol and drugs. Not necessarily in that order. Although there are the odd exceptions of course.


    I suppose it could be argued that hard times produce great art based on past performance but correlation is not causation. If they'd had a few more quid in their pockets down on the Delta would we still have had the Delta Blues? Or would that whole thing just not have happened (and possibly then rock music would never have happened either?). I think we still would have had the music, but some of the lyrics might have been different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Actually I'd say the principle drivers of great music, art and literature -assuming the talent is there to begin with - are sex, alcohol and drugs.
    I largely agree, but you're forgetting *the* biggest principle driver of all, for having created ALL kinds of music to date, great, indifferent or crap, and that's LOVE. As a subject in general, but especially when revolved around relationships or emotional heartbreak, one way or the other, it's influenced nearly every song ever written

    Therefore, I'd replace sex with love, as it's far more relevant. Alcohol and drugs, however, is a much better shout, and spot on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Actually I'd say the principle drivers of great music, art and literature -assuming the talent is there to begin with - are sex, alcohol and drugs. Not necessarily in that order. Although there are the odd exceptions of course.


    I suppose it could be argued that hard times produce great art based on past performance but correlation is not causation. If they'd had a few more quid in their pockets down on the Delta would we still have had the Delta Blues? Or would that whole thing just not have happened (and possibly then rock music would never have happened either?). I think we still would have had the music, but some of the lyrics might have been different.
    IMHO the Chicago and Delta blues were born in oppression as much as, and possibly more, than poverty! To reduce it to a few more quid in their pockets completely misses the point and the suffering.

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    I always find it amusing when people talk about poverty and lack of opportunity for young people in the UK. Yes its so bad that young people from Eastern Europe come here to experience it for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I largely agree, but you're forgetting *the* biggest principle driver of all, for having created ALL kinds of music to date, great, indifferent or crap, and that's LOVE. As a subject in general, but especially when revolved around relationships or emotional heartbreak, one way or the other, it's influenced nearly every song ever written

    Therefore, I'd replace sex with love, as it's far more relevant. Alcohol and drugs, however, is a much better shout, and spot on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I'm more cynical than you hence sex not love.
    Famous folk have sex more, thats why you strive to be famous.
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