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    Quote Originally Posted by AJSki2fly View Post
    Personally I think the best pop songs of all time are Slade's - Merry Xmas Everybody and Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Full of Meaning
    Lol.... If we're talking about just good out-and-out pop tunes, which have stood the test of time, then for me it takes a lot to beat the classics, produced by Abba. They got the concept, from song writing to production, spot on.

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    Said it before, but you don't have to listen to pop music. If you don't like it, don't listen to it . . . just sayin'

    I'm not mad awful keen on Hip Hop, but I personally wouldn't call it crap just because I don't like it, there's a lot who do, does that make them any less worthy? If they buy it, play it and it gives them pleasure (and support the artist) that's good enough for me, they're listening to music.

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    And then of course there is the one hit wonders, Norman Greenbaums - Spirit in a the Sky comes to mind and still gets played.
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    The young do get clobbered with extortionate rents these days, the wages ain't so bad, but then mr and mrs landlord snatch away half their wages, its disgusting. And then you get these young Eastern Euros travelling miles to work in these conditions, weird!
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    If an East European worker gets say, 300 pw here, it will have the buying power of probably about 6-700 pw back home. And many of these migrant workers 'house share' to keep their living costs down. I've worked at a few of these 'multi-occupancy' houses, and where nearly all the rooms are being used to sleep in. Some may even use the beds in shifts.

    Personally I admire their determination to get out there and live and work in a foreign, sometimes hostile country in order to make a better life for their loved ones. I really wouldn't want to live like that, but then who knows what anyone will do when faced with those choices?
    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    If an East European worker gets say, 300 pw here, it will have the buying power of probably about 6-700 pw back home. And many of these migrant workers 'house share' to keep their living costs down. I've worked at a few of these 'multi-occupancy' houses, and where nearly all the rooms are being used to sleep in. Some may even use the beds in shifts.
    yep loads round here doing exactly that. If I was in my twenties and could go to Poland and do the same job for twice the money I'd at least think about it. I lived in shared houses until I was 30 anyway. No big deal. The savings made doing that helped me get a deposit together to buy. 500/month rent isn't so bad split 5 ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    If an East European worker gets say, 300 pw here, it will have the buying power of probably about 6-700 pw back home. And many of these migrant workers 'house share' to keep their living costs down. I've worked at a few of these 'multi-occupancy' houses, and where nearly all the rooms are being used to sleep in. Some may even use the beds in shifts.

    Personally I admire their determination to get out there and live and work in a foreign, sometimes hostile country in order to make a better life for their loved ones. I really wouldn't want to live like that, but then who knows what anyone will do when faced with those choices?
    Precisely. It is madness to blame individuals taking perfectly legal steps to pursue a better life and to provide for their families, wherever they may be located. What is criminal, is for a government to make no provision to increase housing stock and capacity in education and social services despite sizeable and largely predictable increases in net migration over decades. I am not against immigration per se, or from any particular region or ethnicity. What I am against, is a policy which exploits the resident population by using a virtually limitless pool of overseas labour to drive down local wages and living standards.

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    Anyway, the thread is wandering again, so just to ease it back into music by saying I have a CD by Pat Metheney and Anna Maria Jopek (Upojenie), A Polish woman with a really nice voice although I can't understand a word she says. Produced in 2008 so relatively modern.

    If you listen to recent material by established artists, that will still count as new won't it?
    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Anyway, the thread is wandering again, so just to ease it back into music by saying I have a CD by Pat Metheney and Anna Maria Jopek (Upojenie), A Polish woman with a really nice voice although I can't understand a word she says. Produced in 2008 so relatively modern.

    If you listen to recent material by established artists, that will still count as new won't it?
    There are three categories of "new music":

    a) New music by new artists
    b) New music by established artists
    c) Newly discovered old music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    Precisely. It is madness to blame individuals taking perfectly legal steps to pursue a better life and to provide for their families, wherever they may be located. What is criminal, is for a government to make no provision to increase housing stock and capacity in education and social services despite sizeable and largely predictable increases in net migration over decades. I am not against immigration per se, or from any particular region or ethnicity. What I am against, is a policy which exploits the resident population by using a virtually limitless pool of overseas labour to drive down local wages and living standards.
    That's it in a nutshell I think. As long as migration can be carefully managed I'm sure there'll be room for all of us. We just need to be a bit more robust in dealing with the criminal element which seem to be finding us easy pickings.
    I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

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