Cheap upgrade for michell gyro

[struth]

20200717_223853_54704266023141 by Alan Moon, on Flickr

Good vid alan

[gninnam]

Listening impressions so far:

Played many albums/12 inches and have to say it has improved the SQ no end.

The first album I played was an old fav of mine and probably played the most out of all of my collection (Dead Can Dance - In to the Labyrinth).
First thing I noticed was how detailed it appeared to be with the high hats especially sounding a lot clearer than they did previously.
Each instrument seemed so clear and easy to place and I noticed that the percussion on this album seemed to stand out in a way it didn't before.

After this I played some soul from Barbara Mason - 'A Piece of my Life'
The production stuck out for me as everything seemed so crisp and clean, here voice sounding like she was just in front of me and trying to seduce me (oh err).

There are 2 negatives
1. I knew my turntable speed wasn't bang on but got used to it, the new platter is slightly smaller in diameter which moved the speed closer to what is should be (it was out by about .3 RPM) so I could pick up the slight change but I could always alter the speed, but being the AC PSU/Motor it requires some major surgery (hence why I haven't bothered to change it yet....)

2. The recess for the nut appears to be slightly lower than the original platter - this means the nut is lower than before so when you tighten the clamp it no longer pushes the record down as much. This can be address with a washer which I will check my stash for the right sized one.

But, the SQ has improved - will continue to play a few more records tomorrow and make a final assessment

[gninnam]

A few pictures:

[mad-moon]

Your deck looks Great Andy..The new platter looks so much nicer than the black imho..but more importatntly the sound quality and listening experience has been upped ten fold..It certainly is a wonderful platter..anyone with an Orbe or Gyrodec should definitely give this a run out on their decks, again another upgrade that just works..isn't hifi a fun?

[gninnam]

Your deck looks Great Andy..The new platter looks so much nicer than the black imho..but more importatntly the sound quality and listening experience has been upped ten fold..It certainly is a wonderful platter..anyone with an Orbe or Gyrodec should definitely give this a run out on their decks, again another upgrade that just works..isn't hifi a fun?

Cheers Alan - yes, another brilliant idea started by Peter and seems to just work
As Pete would say, he does not make these or sell them so if you want to bag one, then give Truepoint a ring (not affiliated with either Pete or Truepoint but know a good upgrade when I see/hear one )

Regarding your light show, did it make any difference to the sound? Another worthwhile upgrade

[phonomac]

.... you are welcome it also depends on what you are willing to pay ,, https://theppb.co.uk
,.

Still haven't seen anything that offers me a 1 micron tolerance plastic ball of any kind - best they can do is 5 microns

[gwernaffield]

well it does not make any difference , the turntables are not built to that high standard , the bearing is only point loaded, about a pin points worth , sitting on a surface that should be very smooth but is a rough as sand paper , and the cone it sits into is not a very good finish either ,
the ball could be 20microns out of shape you just would not see it or hear in , the bearing is located by the shaft and not the ball , i hope this helps
i have talked to Michell over the cone part , not sure if they have done anything about it the ball cannot sit properly due to the roughly machined cone , if my facts have been wrong in the past my apology, but it makes no difference , we stopped using Delrn and torlon , a while ago, torlon is very hard and can micro crack , Delrin was used and still can be used in the pylons, i use a aluminoxide ball, and not the black ball as i was told by Werner that the Black Ball can also crack ,
as all the bearing balls are made to different standards it is up to the user to check , i don't supply parts, but will help if possible,
pete

[mad-moon]

Cheers Alan - yes, another brilliant idea started by Peter and seems to just work
As Pete would say, he does not make these or sell them so if you want to bag one, then give Truepoint a ring (not affiliated with either Pete or Truepoint but know a good upgrade when I see/hear one )

Regarding your light show, did it make any difference to the sound? Another worthwhile upgrade

It's different to watching the weights fly round on the stock Gyrodec platter..but just a bit of fun Andy...It'll make people smile....

[gwernaffield]

made me smile

[Gazjam]

SUPERB!

Click on the image to watch the all new Disco Gyrodec...

20200717_223853_54704266023141 by Alan Moon, on Flickr