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    Well that's Paul for you. My experience was similar.

    Quote Originally Posted by farflungstar View Post
    Mine are the kensingtons so a little different, though Paul has assured me it's not too difficult. They may well be my Christmas present.

    Petrat informs me that in his opinion, moving to Paul's top end crossovers was the single biggest upgrade I've made in my system. I'm inclined to agree.
    Main: Speakers 'RFC' Tannoy Canterburys / custom crossovers with Tannoy ST25 supertweeters; Amp - Radford STA100; Pre EAR 912; Vinyl: Thorens TD124 MkII + Ikeda IT345-CR1 9 inch and Ikeda IT-407 12 inch tonearms; Cartridges Stereo - Miyajima Madake, Miyajima Takumi, Ikeda 9TT, SAEC/Excel C3; Mono - Miyajimas - Zero 0.7, Premium 1.0, Edison '78' 4.0 conical, and Shure M44 strapped for mono with several Expert Stylus conicals for different eras of 78s; Phono stage and SUT from EAR 912 + Miyajima ETR-Mono SUT; Esoteric Sound Re-Equalizer for equalisation of early mono and 78, switchable in from tape loop; Digital: Audio Note CDT2/II transport, heavily modded AN Kit DAC + Mutec MC3+USB.

    Study: Speakers - Tannoy DC6; Amp: Pass Aleph 'Mini'; tube preamp - Gate Audio tube; Vinyl: Garrard 401 with AT1503 Mk I tonearm and vintage Ortofon SL-15e with matching Ortofon 2-15k SUT; Phono Stage from Gate Audio preamp; Digital - Trichord Genesis III CDP + Arcam rBlink.

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    Oh no, I see divorce on my horizon

    These look great, I better get some gear sold pronto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Well that's Paul for you. My experience was similar.




    Petrat informs me that in his opinion, moving to Paul's top end crossovers was the single biggest upgrade I've made in my system. I'm inclined to agree.
    Thanks for reminding me! I should have mentioned in my update that despite my OP I eventually opted for Paul's 'top end' crossover. He does offer several lower cost options.

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    I've actually sent mine away AGAIN to be reworked upto top spec levels for the mg 15s. Mine took quite a while to fully come on song and I would add that what your hearing now is probably not what you'll end up with . Things usually improve markedly once you've become accustomed to the nuances these things generate and contrary to popular believe I think that his XOs genuinely do take 50-100 hours to run in. I'm sure other owners will comment and probably say I'm talking complete twoddle
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat Analog Studio Crystal Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony arm Board Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector/3 StageRegs/Recapped PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise (4 Box)


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    I remember a dealer friend visiting Harbeth 20 years ago, hearing some of the 'development' prototypes, and telling me afterwards that he was absolutely amazed at how different crossovers could make the same speakers sound so completely different. AS was putting literally months of work into getting them right apparently. But for me, it's not just about 'voicing', it's also that cross-overs seem to be a 'bottle-neck', inevitably restricting things in one way or another. Whenever I've heard active speakers done properly, they've invariably been noticably better than the 'normal' version.

    So, if cross-overs are a bad thing, it's a difficult one for me, because I am very satisfied with the way my Tannoys sound, and it'd be a bit of a gamble to change them. But, you don't know what you don't know. Would RFC's 'ultimate' cross-overs be an improvement? I believe that Tannoy improved the quality of their components for the Prestige range, so maybe not the same improvements to be had, compared to vintage models? Hmmm ... I eagerly await Adrian's verdict if he goes down that route. OTOH, as Danilo said further up the thread, going fully active is a big change, but may well be the 'last frontier' for my system, short of selling up and starting again with 5-way horns, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by petrat View Post
    I remember a dealer friend visiting Harbeth 20 years ago, hearing some of the 'development' prototypes, and telling me afterwards that he was absolutely amazed at how different crossovers could make the same speakers sound so completely different. AS was putting literally months of work into getting them right apparently. But for me, it's not just about 'voicing', it's also that cross-overs seem to be a 'bottle-neck', inevitably restricting things in one way or another. Whenever I've heard active speakers done properly, they've invariably been noticably better than the 'normal' version.

    So, if cross-overs are a bad thing, it's a difficult one for me, because I am very satisfied with the way my Tannoys sound, and it'd be a bit of a gamble to change them. But, you don't know what you don't know. Would RFC's 'ultimate' cross-overs be an improvement? I believe that Tannoy improved the quality of their components for the Prestige range, so maybe& not the same improvements to be had, compared to vintage models? Hmmm ... I eagerly await Adrian's verdict if he goes down that route. OTOH, as Danilo said further up the thread, going fully active is a big change, but may well be the 'last frontier' for my system, short of selling up and starting again with 5-way horns, etc
    Good points. I also have a hig pair of active ATC 50s and they do indeed sound from passive but I own them because they produce and give me a certain "mood" when I listen to them. I lived with 15s for quite a while with the original XO spec containing all the original components and was very UNDERWHELMED. The Tannoys now are a very different beast and I would have to be completely on my upped before I flogged them. In my experience I got a very positive result perhaps better XO designs exist but none have as many positive recommendations as the RFCs.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat Analog Studio Crystal Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony arm Board Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector/3 StageRegs/Recapped PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise (4 Box)


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    Quote Originally Posted by hermit View Post
    Just to update the thread with my thoughts having taken delivery of a pair of Paul's custom Tannoy crossovers last week.

    As others have said, Paul's customer care is second to none and he was very generous with his time.

    The care and attention to detail that went into building the crossovers is quite apparent as soon as you unpack them. The build quality is quite literally awesome. It's immediately clear why Paul is prepared to offer a lifetime guarantee. They look like they will last a lifetime

    I've spent the last few days immersed in my system and I believe that Paul's design really delivers in comparison to my fully recapped stock crossovers. The main improvements that I've noticed: my system sounds more open and less constrained through the mids; the imaging seems sharper, more defined especially front to back; bass seems to have more definition and texture; horns and piano sound especially lovely. Overall the presentation feels very natural and "right".

    In summary, I couldn't be happier and would strongly recommend Paul's custom crossovers to other curious Tannoy owners.



    Paul, What version of x-over did you opt for?
    I've approached Paul Coupe, and he has two versions of the external - good or high quality components.

    Regards, Simon.

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    Simon, as the Lockwoods will hopefully stay with me for life, I opted for Paul's top spec.

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    I know absolutely nothing about electronics. But must express, those external crossovers look sexy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by southall-1998 View Post
    But must express, those external crossovers look sexy!!

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    I'm pretty certain that's not the reason for the easy to clean perspex covers

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