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    David,

    Very nice indeed. This could be all consuming

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    Thanks Charlie, it's only the high cost of tapestock that will hold me back!

    Test recorded tracks from each of my sources last night into a rough compilation: CD, SACD, DVD-A, FLAC, ALAC, MP3, VINYL.
    Wanted to judge how it will sound if different formats are compiled together, and I am really pleased with the initial result.
    Obviously MP3 was worst, but still no worse than the original. CD actually sounded better when reproduced on the tape if that's even possible.
    All higher res stuff SACD, DVD-A, FLAC sounds the same as source, very accurately copied, I can't hear any loss.

    Vinyl was interestingly variable depending on the record.
    I was thrilled with Analogue Productions pressing of Sade, spot on.
    But MFSL Bob Dylan comes across with a slightly pronounced noise floor. I'd guess it's down to MFSL pressing being a bit quiet perhaps, so the signal to noise ratio is different.
    Old 7" Pogues single sounded just fine.

    Playback from DAW through Beresford DAC to tape was also really good.
    That's how I plan to sequence my compilations as it allows me to do some simple layering, with one track fading out as the other is starting, to make a gapless flow.
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    The problem with RTR, IMHO, is the lack of software!! One is limited to making copies of material already owned on other formats which, to me anyway, rather defeats the object of having what is probably the best sounding format of all....

    On the very rare occasions I use my RTR's it's usually to record live performances. Then all the fun of choosing and using microphones, mic pre amps etc can be "enjoyed"

    Most commonly available and cheap mixing desks etc are not really up to the job IMHO.... although this doesn't stop them being used pretty universally and even on some recordings released to the public commercially! They are usually built with the cheapest nastiest components known to man and typically there would be 10 or more cheap op-amps in the signal path....

    The mics situation is better as there are now many Chinese made (and Australian in the case of Rode) condenser mics of good quality available relatively cheaply (£120-300 ish) which when only available from the old time traditional makers such as Neumann, AKG, Sennheiser would have been around £2000-4000 each... Ok they are not as good but probably give 85%+ of the performance for 10 x less money! Many can also be modded for better performance.
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    Look forward to the photos
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    If that's aimed at me well there are no photos... I'm not a person that generally takes photos of things/events/ people... anything really... and I will have been far too busy doing the recording anyway!... and guarding the gear from curious drunks when recording stuff at a pub gig...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    If that's aimed at me well there are no photos... I'm not a person that generally takes photos of things/events/ people... anything really... and I will have been far too busy doing the recording anyway!... and guarding the gear from curious drunks when recording stuff at a pub gig...
    Its " NOT AIMED AT YOU " its a comment for the OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Its " NOT AIMED AT YOU " its a comment for the OP
    Ok. Thought it unusual for you to talk to me...
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    ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    Ok. Thought it unusual for you to talk to me...
    I think its best we don't go there
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    If you're one who bears a grudge forever then suits me. Back to mutual ignore mode
    Arkless Electronics-Engineered to be better. Tel. 01670 530674 (after 1pm)

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    ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
    Digital: Yamaha CDR-HD1500 (Digital Swiss army knife-CD recorder, player, hard drive, DAC and ADC in one), PC files via 24/96 sound card and SPDIF, modded Philips CD850, modded Philips CD104, modded DPA Little Bit DAC. Sennheiser HD580 cans with Arkless Headphone amp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics View Post
    If you're one who bears a grudge forever then suits me. Back to mutual ignore mode
    Great
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