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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    I ended getting the Beldem IC cable from POLAND I must admit to not taking too much notice of the bass but I do have some pretty good tracks to which I can assess your findings. I'm finding that the Belden IC's are very good with Digital sources and not so good from the analog side of things.
    That's interesting Andy , I wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    That's interesting Andy , I wonder why?
    ?????? No idea. I'm a very sceptical cable critic and wouldn't like to say. I think there are too many variables at play here.
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  3. #43
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    Yes agreed . I gave up trying to fathom out these things years ago . If it sounds good to my ears then it is good
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    Brian

    Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )


    Korus Computer Audio music server
    JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
    Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
    Speakers : Tannoy 637
    Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
    Speaker cables : Western Electric 16AG

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    Just a quicky for those that want to try the Duelund Western Electric speaker cable. It's now available at HiFi collective and I'm not sure if its £7 or £8 per meter. I'm probably going to get some more and russle up some IC's for a little fun over Xmas.
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE
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    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker



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    I really must post my findings at some point. I need to plonk these cables in my reference Valve system and have a decent session.
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    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker



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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    I really must post my findings at some point. I need to plonk these cables in my reference Valve system and have a decent session.
    Yes ... do that!

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    Yup...pull yer socks up Andy
    Last edited by brian2957; 02-12-2016 at 20:53.
    Regards
    Brian

    Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )


    Korus Computer Audio music server
    JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
    Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
    Speakers : Tannoy 637
    Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
    Speaker cables : Western Electric 16AG

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    Right, I've been meaning to write something for a while, so here goes.

    I plugged the Belden IC's and Duelund speaker cable into my Valve reference system (see signature for details). I removed my usual Mark Grant cables
    https://markgrant.co.uk/audio-cables...t-0110-ag.html and my Van Damme 6mm Blue Speaker cable.
    http://hifipig.com/van-damme-blue-an...peaker-cables/ I use this combination every Sunday night to listen to Jazz whilst having the odd Penderyn.

    Now the Belden/Duelund combo had big shoes to fill and Jeff over at Jeff's place decided to spend whole weeks raving over the potential of these cables. You have to admit that my system is nothing like Jeff's and I sure as hell ain't gonna spend $1000's on Duelund caps to replicate what he has. So, I plugged in and started to listen. Initially I was very surprised at how life like and delicate cymbals sounded. I even began to think that John Coltrane's Sax sounded "organic" just like Jeff said it would, then I realised that I was listening to a very condensed, weedy rendition of what should be a very three dimensional Saxophone standing in the left corner of my sound stage. The sax sounded just like it was playing into a cup . Piano I'm afraid was no better. All I could hear was a painfully dull and blunted rendition on piano playing. I'm used to being to hear each note indvidually and follow the edge of the note as it decays, no, not here, I actually had to stop listening after 5 minutes. Things went even further down hill, I decided to try Miles Davis Kinda Blue, the opening reverb on the double was completely lost and was more of a mumble. I'm afraid to say that I took the cables out at this stage and fitted back my old reference cables, sat down and had a whisky to calm my nerves and then calmly listened to some decent jazz.
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE
    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker



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    Sounds like you had a rough time mate

    Glad all has been returned to sonic '' normality '' .

    I regularly do the same and always return to an earlier cable , usually very quickly

    Enjoy your whisky
    Regards
    Brian

    Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )


    Korus Computer Audio music server
    JustBoom DAC . HRT Musicstreamer 2
    Amplifier : Sony TA FB740R
    Speakers : Tannoy 637
    Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
    Speaker cables : Western Electric 16AG

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Sounds like you had a rough time mate

    Glad all has been returned to sonic '' normality '' .

    I regularly do the same and always return to an earlier cable , usually very quickly

    Enjoy your whisky
    The IC's sound fine but not as good as the Klotz. The Belden/Duelund combo sounded ok on SS equipment, now how does that work, Jeff's stuff is mainly valve/horn based stuff?????
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE
    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker



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