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  1. #51
    Join Date: May 2011

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    Well I tried quite a few wires before I settled on the Klotz MC5000 mate so I sympathize with you on that front . Not really had much experience with valves though .
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    Brian

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    Amplifier : Rega Brio R
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    Interconnects : MS Audio / Klotz MC5000 .
    Speaker cables : Chord Epic Twin

  2. #52
    Join Date: Nov 2010

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    Blimey just over 2 years since I last did anything with this experiment. I might have a listen tonight with some Celestion Ditton 15's that I re-wired with the Duelund cable. Should be interesting. I might also make some comparisons against the Karma cables.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (nodded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box)


  3. #53
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    An update! I managed to get my old Radford STA25 Renaissance working again after a complete valve change and re biasing the valves. I currently have the Radford linked in to the Croft Epoch preamp, eventually the radford pre-amp will be fettled and put pack into service (back to EL34'S EEEK)! The Celestion ditton 15'S have been re-wired with Duelund cable, and I've also running some Duelund speaker cable. Things are sounding truly excellent. Ultimately I intend to have the EAR 835 clone and Lenco 75 in this system. Should make for a fun system and something different to listen to. I might post some more notes up at some point. Overall the Real Sound experiment seems to on track again. Maybe the "synergy" of the other kit just wasn't there?
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (nodded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box)


  4. #54
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    tweaked and fettled kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    tweaked and fettled kit.

    Yep. Defo! The old 15's have never sounded as good. Just goes to show how your perception of things changes.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (nodded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box)


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    OK, the Radford pre and power are now working. A dodgy set of ECC82's replaced today and we have great noise coming through the 15's. I wonder how things are going to sound through the Tannoy's. More notes and observations tomorrow maybe?
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (nodded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box)


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    I ordered up the parts for a new set of IC's between the Radford pre and power amp.

    Belden 8402 microphone cable
    Switchcraft 3502AAU RCA’s

    The IC's are now duly constructed and sitting in my REAL SOUND system. I have also replaced the JR149's with a fully set of modded Celestion Ditton 15 speakers (https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...itton+speakers). I now have a full loom of Duelund cabling.The speakers are Duelund re-wired, the IC's use the same wire construction, and the speaker cabling is Duelund. The Radford pre and power amp even contain tinned copper wiring! I've been listening to the system now for a couple of days and can honestly say that really really loving what I'm hearing. Massive amounts of details and fantastic timbral decay. It's very rare that I do a complete about-face-turn about a product but it's looking like that might be the case here. Blimey!!!
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (nodded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box)


  8. #58
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    You are going all inn - Thanks for sharing.

    Duelund DCA 16ga in double run replaced Audience Au24 as my speaker cable due to rearrangement of my listening room - I had quite a few cables in and out before settling on the Duelund. Besides what you have already mentioned it's main qualities in my setup is it's (illusion..) of Presence it gives to the music.

    The same cable as signal cable (XLR shielded) between my Phono & Amp wasn't good though - the higher frequencies was too sharp for my liking.
    Amp: Ayre AX-7e.
    Riaa: ASR Basis Exclusive.
    Speakers: Harbeth SHL5.
    Turntable 1: Sony TTS-8000 with Terminator tonearm & Benz Ruby Z.
    Turntable 2: Garrard 401 with Jelco 750L & Lyra Delos.
    Cables: AN Qssc interconnects and Duelund DCA16GA for speakers.
    Turntable projects: The Voyd, Thorens TD-125 LB.
    Future: I will get back to tubes some day.

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  9. #59
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    Yes its a good cable. Ideally I'd like a couple of Duelund caps in the speakers but the cost is prohibitive, I'm happy with the presentation.
    SS CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DAC Caiman SEG+15V PSU DECK 1210 Mat SPH SSS Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe/Ebony PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    Valve PRECroft Epoch(Mega Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (nodded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Reference XO DECK Garrard301 Mat Teunto Bearing 401 Plinth Moldovan Arms 3009/3012(Ikeda Ag wired) PSUEagle+Tachometer MCAg Meister SPU v2 CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ Speaker VdH 6mm Blue IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostage Paradise(4 Box)


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