My "REAL SOUND" experiment.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Just another quick update! The REAL sound system has moved on a bit. I bought a new pair of these. I now have to wait 3 weeks for them to be delivered. I have already organised some Duelund DCA 16GA to wire them up. I borrowed the pair from my Tannoy 15" MG's and the results sound promising.



I also splashed the cash and bought some Duelund DCA12 GA speaker cable whilst should replace the thinner 16GA that I'd been listening to. Finally I decided to try some new EL34's in my Radford STA25 amp. I went over to https://brimaruk.com/ and bought myself a quad of EL34's. Have you seen the price of supposed NOS Brimar EL34's? Your look at £100+ a piece, I ordered 4 for £100.




I strongly recommend a visit to their webpage and learn about the machines that they shipped over back to the uk. Well the REAL sound system is coming along nicely. I've still not ordered the Bypass caps, that's for another day.

As ever, stay tuned!

[Gazjam]

Hi Andy

Been following your journey here, very interesting.
A fan of the Duelund cable myself, using the 16Ga in a single run to my Impulse H2's, so interested to hear your take on the thicker 12 vs the 16.

Sometimes I wonder if the sound could do with a bit more "meat on the bone" sometimes, so maybe the 12 could be the way forward?

[Wakefield Turntables]

Hi Andy

Been following your journey here, very interesting.
A fan of the Duelund cable myself, using the 16Ga in a single run to my Impulse H2's, so interested to hear your take on the thicker 12 vs the 16.

Sometimes I wonder if the sound could do with a bit more "meat on the bone" sometimes, so maybe the 12 could be the way forward?

no idea mate I'm in Disney land at the moment I ordered all the stuff as a treat for when I get back. I'm going bonkers queuing twelve hours a time for a two minute ride with my daughter . I will endeavour to report when I have a little time.

[Wakefield Turntables]

REAL SOUND EXPERIMENT - UPDATE!!


It's getting cold so it must be time for another update! The REAL sound experiment is developing quite nicely. My Taket Batpure super tweeters arrived.


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I had an old piece of wood sitting in the garage and I liked it's rough organic look. I drilled a couple of holes and wired up the Duelund cabling for the supertweeters. Ten minutes later and we had the new Supertweeters plumbed into the Celestion Ditton 15 speakers.

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At this moment in time I don't think I can modify the 15's any further. I may by the Duelund bypass caps. Yes, silly money for a couple of caps but this experiment is all about working with and experimenting with the Duelund products. My attention was turned to the Radford STA Amplifier. I decided to pull out my Electroharmonix EL34's and replace them with some Brimar EL34's from https://brimaruk.com/ OK not Mullard EL34's but close. I also wanted to help out with the ultimate aim of the project which is to start valve production again in the UK. I now need to have a look at the remaining complement of valves for the Radford and dig out Mullard equivalents.


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The REAL sound experiment is still in development and I'm hoping to have either a Garrard 301/401 to finish the project. I can then start listening and report
back my findings.

Stay tuned...

[struth]

I stuck my tweeters to side of cab. Worked well.

[Edward]

Interesting.

How are you finding the Batpure STs so far? I also got a set but tbh don't find much difference but have not plugged them in for a few months now. The small difference I *thought* I detected were a slightly more defined image across the range. Difficult to blind test these though.

Also interesting you are trying the new Brimar EL34s. Did come across them but not yet bought a set. Still using JJs in my sta25. A big difference I did notice were replacing all the input valves for new. So interested to hear about your thoughts.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Interesting.

How are you finding the Batpure STs so far? I also got a set but tbh don't find much difference but have not plugged them in for a few months now. The small difference I *thought* I detected were a slightly more defined image across the range. Difficult to blind test these though.

Also interesting you are trying the new Brimar EL34s. Did come across them but not yet bought a set. Still using JJs in my sta25. A big difference I did notice were replacing all the input valves for new. So interested to hear about your thoughts.

I've been a big advocate of the Taket Batpure's for ages and I originally started using them on my Tannoy 15" MG's several years ago. I noticed a "decent" improvement on the Tannoy's and they are still in place! I've tried them on the 15's and did notice a wider more spacious soundstage but they were wired with pure silver and not the Duelund tinned copper so the jury is still out. I've had JJ's before in my Sondex amp and I thought them to be ok but bettered with Genelex Gold Lions. The input valves on my STA25 are a mixture of Brimar and Electroharmonix. I'm going to have to search through my stash and see what I have in hiding!

[Barry]

Is the wire with the manky-looking insulation the Duelund?

[Edward]

Thanks for the feedback Andrew. I'll dig up my batpures and plug them in. I'm wondering if the cables I used on them are holding them back. Can't recall what I used.

The new input valves are ones that Will at Radford Revival supplied. I'm guessing that my previous ones, being quite old, had become a bit 'soft'.

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[Wakefield Turntables]

Is the wire with the manky-looking insulation the Duelund?

Yes.

Thanks for the feedback Andrew. I'll dig up my batpures and plug them in. I'm wondering if the cables I used on them are holding them back. Can't recall what I used.

The new input valves are ones that Will at Radford Revival supplied. I'm guessing that my previous ones, being quite old, had become a bit 'soft'.

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Good luck, please comment about your experiences on my thread.