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I'm Andrew.
HELP! Advice needed on phonostages with DECCA RIAA
Now that I'm well on my way to becoming a DECCA geek I got round to thinking if it might be a good idea to get a phonostage specifically built for DECCA RIAA or purchase one with the option already built in. So far I've seen the latest audio research reference pre-amp costing mucho dosh and the latest phonostage from ifi audio. Any other suggestions?
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I'm James.
Croft preamps seem to be optimally set up to work with the Decca cartridge. Cant say the RIAA is bang on but funnily enough they sound very good indeed.
I wonder why?
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I'm Jez.
I don't know if it may be of any interest to you but I can build phono stages specifically for Decca (or any other) EQ and, in many cases, I could modify the EQ in an extant phono stage to be to Decca rather than RIAA standard.
EDIT: Just a thought (I can't be bothered to revise the detailed history), IIRC the Decca eq would refer only to the correct replay of old records which were actually recorded to Decca standard rather than to RIAA standard and would have no bearing on the replay of standard records, even if using a Decca cartridge.
It would only really be of use to someone wanting to get the exact correct response when replaying rare (?) archive records made between lets say 1947 and 1953 (a wild guess!) and then only if manufactured by Decca or a company licensing their techniques...
I'm probably stating the obvious and teaching me granny to suck eggs there... and may even be less than 100% correct... but just saying
If you're well aware of that and it is indeed what you wish to do then, as I said at the top, I can help
Last edited by Arkless Electronics; 04-08-2016 at 16:25.
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I'm fairly sure that's right Jez and that RIAA has long been standard across the board. I'm not aware of any other replay equalisation in common use.Originally Posted by Arkless Electronics
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
Trade: Wakefield Turntables
Location: Yorkshire
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I'm Andrew.
Hmmm I need to do my homework and come back to this one.
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CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10
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PRE Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker
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I'm Jez.
Columbia, New Orthophonic, Victor, Old RIAA, Decca FFSS and FFRR all available! Thorns whittled to Shibata profile while you wait! (I may get serious enquiries from DL103 owners...) A huge untapped market awaits
I'll get my coat....
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Modded Thorens TD150, Audio Technica AT-1005 MkII, Technics EPC-300MC, Arkless Hybrid MC phono stage, Arkless passive pre, Arkless 50WPC Class A SS power amp, (or) Arkless modded Leak Stereo 20, Modded Kef Reference 105/3's
ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
Digital: Yamaha CDR-HD1500 (Digital Swiss army knife-CD recorder, player, hard drive, DAC and ADC in one), PC files via 24/96 sound card and SPDIF, modded Philips CD850, modded Philips CD104, modded DPA Little Bit DAC. Sennheiser HD580 cans with Arkless Headphone amp.
Cables- free interconnects that come with CD players, mains leads from B&Q, dead kettles etc, extension leads from Tesco
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I'm Geoff.
Do serious owners have DL-103's?(I may get serious enquiries from DL103 owners...
(Marco will probably send the Denon brigade after me now)
It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!
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Location: NE England
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I'm Jez.
Do serious owners have DL-103's?
(Marco will probably send the Denon brigade after me now
Arkless Electronics-Engineered to be better. Tel. 01670 530674 (after 1pm)
Modded Thorens TD150, Audio Technica AT-1005 MkII, Technics EPC-300MC, Arkless Hybrid MC phono stage, Arkless passive pre, Arkless 50WPC Class A SS power amp, (or) Arkless modded Leak Stereo 20, Modded Kef Reference 105/3's
ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
Digital: Yamaha CDR-HD1500 (Digital Swiss army knife-CD recorder, player, hard drive, DAC and ADC in one), PC files via 24/96 sound card and SPDIF, modded Philips CD850, modded Philips CD104, modded DPA Little Bit DAC. Sennheiser HD580 cans with Arkless Headphone amp.
Cables- free interconnects that come with CD players, mains leads from B&Q, dead kettles etc, extension leads from Tesco
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Yep - I still use mine, as well as one of several EMTsDo serious owners have DL-103's?
(Marco will probably send the Denon brigade after me now
Barry
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I'm openingabottleofwine.
What about the BBC equalisation curve? Can you do that as well?Columbia, New Orthophonic, Victor, Old RIAA, Decca FFSS and FFRR all available! Thorns whittled to Shibata profile while you wait! (I may get serious enquiries from DL103 owners...
I'll get my coat....
Barry
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