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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Steve,

    Much as I love the Paradise phono stage, having heard versions of it now on three occasions, I'm not sure that it's particularly suited to the DL-103 any more so than it is to any other high-quality MC cartridge.

    In my experience, which with optimising DL-103s is considerable, they really 'like' a quality valve MM phono stage (such as anything Jez, Firebottle or lurcher could build for you), used in conjunction with an equally high-quality MC head amp (again made by any of the trio of gents mentioned) or SUT.

    Or, as Andy says, you could use a Lentek head amp, with any of said valve MM stages, which you can usually pick up on ebay for about £70. The Lentek positively LOVES the DL-103, and used in conjunction with a quality valve MM stage, you'd be blown away by the sound produced. Trust me!

    Marco.
    This matches my experience.
    I have a 103 that has been heavily reworked by Dom at Northwest Analogue - I'm using a Croft valve MC headamp with external PSU same as the one for the 25RS into the MM phono stage of the Croft 25RS - the results are "better" than any of the various SUT's I've tried. Sound character is very valve dependent IMO - I've settled on using Seimens CCa's in the headamp
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinjohn308 View Post
    Yes Simon has built at least 16 Paradise units, I know as I bought no 14. Miles better than my previous phono stage Whest Audio 30R good as it is but the Paradise is on another planet.

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    Martin
    Nice to see someone else actually thinks the paradise trumps the Whest. I personally cant see what the big thing is with Whest phonostages.
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    wasnt overly impressed with my whest
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    I wasent impressed at all with Steves Whest
    Steve I will let you know how the 103 sounds with the Paradise shortly
    I also have a little lentek and a MM stage so I will try that as well


    paradise 1 by Alan Towell, on Flickr


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    Turntable - Garrard 401/Jelco 750L/Ortofon Kontrapunkt B, Pioneer PLC 590, Micro Sieki MA505 , Denon DL103R - DIY Paradise Phono stage - Reel 2 Reel Studer A810, Otari MX55,Tascam BR20, Revox A77, B77, PR99, TEAC X1000 & 3440, Digital HTPC / Young Dac - Preamp - DIY B4, 821, Power Amp's DIY Avondale NCC300 Mono Block, Speakers Wilmslow Kit Volt BM220.8 / Scanspeak D2905/9500

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    I had a Whest 30R and had nothing but Earth problems with it. When i eventually got it sorted i still wasn't happy with it's performance. As well documented i had an NVA Phono 2 for a short while and that was much better.
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    Been having a shuffty around for a Lentek Step up. Nowt! rare as rocking horse shite.

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    The only downside to owning the Paradise is that it comes in 4 boxes a la Naim 110 size. The plus side is that it's a wonderful phono stage. Trust me you won't be looking for anything else you've reached Nirvana!

    PM Simon he's a great chap to deal with also he's build quality is second to none.

    Regards,

    Martin

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    Andy, I really need to mod yours to current spec. Ten new caps, four swapped transistors, four new resistors.
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    Simon
    Are these worthwhile mods?.
    If so do you have more details please.

    Alan
    Turntable - Garrard 401/Jelco 750L/Ortofon Kontrapunkt B, Pioneer PLC 590, Micro Sieki MA505 , Denon DL103R - DIY Paradise Phono stage - Reel 2 Reel Studer A810, Otari MX55,Tascam BR20, Revox A77, B77, PR99, TEAC X1000 & 3440, Digital HTPC / Young Dac - Preamp - DIY B4, 821, Power Amp's DIY Avondale NCC300 Mono Block, Speakers Wilmslow Kit Volt BM220.8 / Scanspeak D2905/9500

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    Andy, I really need to mod yours to current spec. Ten new caps, four swapped transistors, four new resistors.
    You have a PM.
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE
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    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker



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