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  1. #831
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    Quote Originally Posted by Made in 1968 View Post
    Awesome Avatar Dude, Old ten bob millionaire himself

    It's the vegan diet - keeps you young lookin', aye.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I bought the drivers in Feb 2018, it was November 2018 when I commissioned the cabinet build. Tempus fugit.
    Ha - love the Latin! It does indeed... I'm probably looking forward to the cabs being built more than you!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti-cal View Post
    My 'live in' lady of the house seems to be okay with subtle black boxes with knobs on them . . . . giant transformers with hot breakable tubes nearby, not so much.

    Speakers are a different kettle of moaning, no interest in sound quality, fish however. Especially electrostatics . . . They need their own houses. A solution which I've been offered but I've been assured it would just be me and them. Hmmmm . . .
    I can understand the distinction between "subtle black boxes with knobs on them" (of which I have many) and "... giant transformers with hot breakable tubes" (of which I have only one example) - but when it comes to electrostatic speakers, I'm afraid it's very much a case of "love me love my hi-fi".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
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    A couple of weeks in now with this Black Tulip amplifier, seems to be a solid performer. I came across some speaker cables in a kitchen cupboard, same Maplins cable with the transparent sheath but this (from memory) is 125 strand as opposed to the 55 strand one I lashed up with. I stripped all the ends back to fresh wire and got good connections I think. It just about fit into the sockets on the amp.

    So now, I think I hear a bit more 'body' to the sound than with the thinner cable, but at the same time I think I lost some of that 'midrange delicacy' that impressed we about this amp to begin with. A slight 'thickening' of the sound. It's such a slight thing that I'm by no means certain it is 'real'. I will have to swap back again to the thin wire I think, and see what I reckon then.

    But I got to thinking, if it is true that most amp designers will 'voice' an amplifier at least to a small extent, and back in the day this amp was designed (late 70s) they were using pretty thin gauge wire during that process, would that not affect the voicing of the amp i.e it is voiced to sound at its best with thinner cable? Any opinions?
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    Can it do bi wire..
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  7. #837
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    The speakers can but when the amp was made bi-wiring wasn't even a twinkle in the dealers' eyes. There are A and B speaker sockets on it but I'm always wary of using them both at once on any amp that has them.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Should be fine as long as the speakers aren't really odd ohmage.
    Was just to try after switching back to put the thick stuff on the bass, and see if the best of both appear
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    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    If the speakers can be bi-wired, then all you need to do is to connect both speaker cables together at the amplifier's terminals. The amplifier only needs to have a single set of terminals per channel.
    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    If the speakers can be bi-wired, then all you need to do is to connect both speaker cables together at the amplifier's terminals. The amplifier only needs to have a single set of terminals per channel.
    Except that the sockets for the speaker cables are just a little wider than a cocktail stick. I can just about fit the 125 strand stuff into them. It might be doable. I was wondering what sort of cable they would have been using at Phillips back in '79? That's almost a decade before I got ensnared in this.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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