View Poll Results: Should UK stay in Europe or leave?

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  1. #21
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    Ian Duncan Smith wants out... That's all you need to know right there.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Semantics, but my point is the vast majority of politicians of all parties want to stay in. So it's not a party political matter.
    It is hugely a case of Right wing = Out, Left wing = In

    As a socialist and Labour voter I'm obviously in the latter camp. At least the In people seem to be wanting to remain for a myriad of perfectly good reasons, such as those expressed by mikmas, whereas the Out contingent seem to base their case about 90% on not wanting "bloody foreigners over 'ere, especially if there's a dusky hue to their skin"

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    It's not always that simple, but I take your point. I'm a Labour Party member but I will vote to leave. I'm not sure how many others from the left will do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby View Post
    It's not always that simple, but I take your point. I'm a Labour Party member but I will vote to leave. I'm not sure how many others from the left will do the same.
    That would be interesting to know!

    Northumberland coast eh Andy? Bedlington here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Sure, but I don't really see this as 'politics'. It is a referendum, one man one vote; and the outcome will heavily influence the future of this country, far more so than a General Election. It is a pretty big deal.
    It's only a "pretty big deal" if your life circumstances make it so.

    In reality, how much difference will the outcome of this referendum make to my day to day life in North Wales, within the timescale I intend to continue living in the UK? And that is only whilst my 83-year old father remains alive, so we can look after him, after which we're off to France or Italy to enjoy our retirement, whilst we're still young enough to do so!

    Therefore, perhaps I should be looking at this from a French or Italian perspective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    It's only a "pretty big deal" if your life circumstances makes it so.

    In reality, how much difference will the outcome of this referendum make to my day to day life in North Wales, within the timescale I intend to continue living in the UK? And that is only whilst my 83-year old dad remains alive, so we can look after him, after which we're off to France or Italy, to enjoy our retirement, whilst we're still young enough to do so!

    Therefore, perhaps I should be looking at this from a French or Italian perspective?

    Marco.
    Well one aspect of the UK leaving would possibly be that it would not be as easy as it is now for a British person to just go and live in an EU country. You'd still be able to, just won't be as straightforward as it is now. So in that respect this could have a direct effect on your life. Unless you also have Italian nationality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Well one aspect of the UK leaving would possibly be that it would not be as easy as it is now for a British person to just go and live in an EU country. You'd still be able to, just won't be as straightforward as it is now. So in that respect this could have a direct effect on your life. Unless you also have Italian nationality?
    I think he has dual Scottish nationality.... if we leave probably the U.K will split and Marco will be able to move abroad pretty easy It is a fairly big deal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Well one aspect of the UK leaving would possibly be that it would not be as easy as it is now for a British person to just go and live in an EU country. You'd still be able to, just won't be as straightforward as it is now. So in that respect this could have a direct effect on your life. Unless you also have Italian nationality?
    I'll just pretend to be Syrian and go and live anywhere I damn well like.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Well one aspect of the UK leaving would possibly be that it would not be as easy as it is now for a British person to just go and live in an EU country. You'd still be able to, just won't be as straightforward as it is now. So in that respect this could have a direct effect on your life. Unless you also have Italian nationality?
    Yes, my dad and I have dual nationality, and we also own property in Italy. What you have to remember is that, although I was born in Scotland (and love Scotland and the Scottish people), and also enjoy living in the UK, I don't 'feel' British - never have done and never will do - simply because I'm not, really: my blood is Italian, and my family tree, going back many generations is 100% Italian.

    I live my life as an Italian, and my whole world outlook is based upon that culture, which is why I don't get 'all excited' about British matters, as much as genuine Brits - and that's fine, as they're entitled and justified to do so.

    If I were pushed to vote on your poll, I'd probably vote for 'Stay', as ultimately I'm more European than British

    Please note, however, that the above answer is not based upon any real understanding of the politics, as I don't follow it!

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