POLL: EU - stay or go?

[Macca]

But the majority of Conservative MP want to stay in, including Cameron and Osbourne. Which means we have to keep the EU Human rights and Employment legislation. If they wanted to get rid of it they would be supporting the leave campaign. Logical fail.

[RichB]

But the majority of Conservative MP want to stay in, including Cameron and Osbourne. Which means we have to keep the EU Human rights and Employment legislation. If they wanted to get rid of it they would be supporting the leave campaign. Logical fail.

They're masters of deception Macca.

Don't think they wouldn't use Brexit as a further excuse to unravel all the legislation they find inconvenient.

Just the same way they pretend to be worried by UKIP in the last election when a vote splitter was was central office wanted all along.

Never trust a Tory.

[RichB]

Indeed Rich! I was rather shocked and disappointed that even on here it's hugely pro leave so far

On a forum comprised predominantly by middle aged, often middle class men, I'm not surprised at all.

[Arkless Electronics]

It horrifies me that something as important as this, and so vastly complex that unless you have phd's in both economics and international affairs you probably aren't in any position to hold a rational opinion on it, will be almost entirely decided by the knee jerk emotional reactions of Little Englanders and the Alf Garnet brigade

Whenever I see this debated, 95% of comment and reaction is to do with one thing: Immigration. Johnny foreigner coming over 'ere... There is SO much more to this than just that!

The other 5%, which makes me laugh... is the sovereignty and "our country, our laws" lot! Yeah 'cos as soon as we're out Cameron and Osbourne are going to be falling over themselves to do what YOU want in YOUR neighbourhood etc LOL! They'd never dream of making things worse for you and even cushier for their pals in The City once no longer "held back" by EU laws now would they? There goes another flying pig... zoom!

[Macca]

They're masters of deception Macca.

Don't think they wouldn't use Brexit as a further excuse to unravel all the legislation they find inconvenient.

Just the same way they pretend to be worried by UKIP in the last election when a vote splitter was was central office wanted all along.

Never trust a Tory.

So you are saying that they all secretly want Brexit but are just pretending not to? A sophisticated strategy and I can't see how it works myself.

As for them being masters of deception ho ho. They are bloody useless. Except at lining their own pockets.

I'm not middle class or middle aged either but I suspect given time that 'stay' will come out ahead. I'd be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't.

[Marco]

Surprised you couldn't care less Marco. Surely no better way to hurt the 'chinless wonders' of Westminster than to cut them off from one of their prime gravy trains?

You know me, Martin, and we've been here before, politics (in general) just bores the pants off of me, so I'm completely apathetic towards the subject in question. I just can't get 'het up' about it, the way so many folks do.

I just live my life day to day, take what comes and do my own thing, trying my best to put factors in place (in essence build my own 'little island') that largely divorces me from this kind of stuff.

If you're 'into' it all though, fill your boots

Marco.

[Macca]

Sure, but I don't really see this as 'politics'. It is a referendum, one man one vote; and the outcome will heavily influence the future of this country, far more so than a General Election. It is a pretty big deal.

[Arkless Electronics]

I don't see how it could be much more political!!

[Macca]

Semantics, but my point is the vast majority of politicians of all parties want to stay in. So it's not a party political matter.

[mikmas]

Leaving would be absolutely barmy bonkers ..... watching the island slowly submerge in a sea of even greater debt is not my idea of 'sovereignty', just pig headed lunacy based on some anachronistic and warped fantasy of 'Great Britain'. Utter nonsense of the first order.