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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkbeard View Post
    Thanks Danilo but I never did get the hang of soldering
    Soldering is a very handy skill. We've just had a good thread on cable making by Oliver, who'd not done any soldering before and ended up doing some good work quickly.

    Here: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...DIY-RCA-Cables

    Why not have a bash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Soldering is a very handy skill. We've just had a good thread on cable making by Oliver, who'd not done any soldering before and ended up doing some good work quickly.

    Here: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...DIY-RCA-Cables

    Why not have a bash?
    Cheers, I shall give it a go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkbeard View Post
    But I will definitely be looking at the Sony amps, would I really be able to get very good hi-fi sound from one of these old amps?
    In short, Yes.

    Provided the amp is n good nick, you would have to go a leg way to beat one of them for sound quality. I have been involved in 'high end' audio for nigh on 30 years as a hobbyist, installer and dealer, and I can honestly say that you're unlikely to find the level,of quality design and build of the older amps in new models unless you're ready to spend £1000's

    Of course that doesn't apply to ALL older amps...there is a lot of dross out there, but essentially, if you can tick the following boxes, whatever amp you're looking at will be better than okay:

    - toroidal transformer
    - dual mono design
    - quality capacitors
    - decent speaker binding posts
    - quality switches

    These are normally the marks of a well designed / built amp.

    Oh, and just for the record, "damping factor" doesn't count for diddly.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigadoon View Post
    In short, Yes.

    Provided the amp is n good nick, you would have to go a leg way to beat one of them for sound quality. I have been involved in 'high end' audio for nigh on 30 years as a hobbyist, installer and dealer, and I can honestly say that you're unlikely to find the level,of quality design and build of the older amps in new models unless you're ready to spend £1000's

    Of course that doesn't apply to ALL older amps...there is a lot of dross out there, but essentially, if you can tick the following boxes, whatever amp you're looking at will be better than okay:

    - toroidal transformer
    - dual mono design
    - quality capacitors
    - decent speaker binding posts
    - quality switches

    These are normally the marks of a well designed / built amp.

    Oh, and just for the record, "damping factor" doesn't count for diddly.......
    Thanks Barry, I had a look about for the high end Sony discussed previously but could not see any nice examples, would you mind giving me a few pointers as to different models I should be looking out for, I like to listen primarily to vinyl if that helps, thanks,

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    If I were you I would have a look at Nord audio's site : - http://www.iqspeakers.co.uk/#!hypex-amps/avuyk
    They are offering IPL Speakers built to a high standard which far exceed the component quality of commercial speakers in my view and sound very good in the bargin at a very good price. Also look at the Abrahamsen electronics. These used to be marketed through dealers under the Electrocompaniet label via a dealer network. All their amps power supplies are built around a 1000va transformer. Electrocompaniet have a very good reputation but were expensive. Now you can get them for what in Hi-Fi terms is pea nuts. You can get a dem of their gear but you will have to get on your bike to Cheltenham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkbeard View Post
    Thanks Barry, I had a look about for the high end Sony discussed previously but could not see any nice examples, would you mind giving me a few pointers as to different models I should be looking out for, I like to listen primarily to vinyl if that helps, thanks,
    Will do Phil, I'll post something tomorrow - I'm a bit under the kosh tonight.
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    Much appreciated Barry, thanks,

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    Phil I haven't forgotten - just running out of hours. I've been given the day off from rebuilding the house by SWMBO tomorrow, so I'll definitely get you some info on the morrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigadoon View Post
    Phil I haven't forgotten - just running out of hours. I've been given the day off from rebuilding the house by SWMBO tomorrow, so I'll definitely get you some info on the morrow.
    Thanks Barry, I understand SWMBO must always take precedence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkbeard View Post
    Controversial indeed, thanks Barry
    I had the Kandy LIII (model before the k2) and it was great amp.

    Picked it up for 2nd hand for £300 and although I loved it, I dont think I'd pay £700 for a new one.

    The K2 is very similar to the LIII so I'd be looking on the 2nd hand market if you like the Roksan sound.

    I do believe your £700 would better be spent on some different speakers though.

    Changing my amp from a Kandy to a Creek Destiny 2 was a subtle change.

    Going from Tannoy DC6 speakers to my Kef LS50's wasn't subtle at all and made a massive improvement.

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