2m Black vs Denon DL-103

[Jimbo]

Cheers Rob

[RobbieGong]

No worries James. Not trying to make it even more difficult or muddy the water but do also read as much as you can on the other mm big guns, namely the ClearAudio Maestro, The Audio Note IQ3, as well as the Nag' MP 500 and the Denon 103 of course. You'll find if you dig enough on the net loads of customer reviews, hifi forum posts, hifi mag reviews and so on where common themes, traits or characteristics for each cart should materialise. As a result you'll find yourself naturally drawn to one or two as a shortlist

[Jimbo]

The Denon 103 seems to be very commonly appreciated and a possible good first step into MC? This maybe my next Hifi adventure although I may indeed go for something higher up the MC food chain.

[RobbieGong]

The Denon 103 seems to be very commonly appreciated and a possible good first step into MC? This maybe my next Hifi adventure although I may indeed go for something higher up the MC food chain.

Hey James, If thats the case then the ZYX R50 Bloom absolutely has to be considered. It's apparently a superb mc at it's price point. Walpurgis (Geoff) here speaks extremely highly of this cart (as do reviews) and he sure knows his hifi onions

[Jimbo]

Hey James, If thats the case then the ZYX R50 Bloom absolutely has to be considered. It's apparently a superb mc at it's price point. Walpurgis (Geoff) here speaks extremely highly of this cart (as do reviews) and he sure knows his hifi onions

Yes Geoff has mentioned this cartridge before and as he has a vast experience with so many cartridges I believe it must be one on the list.

[Floyddroid]

James, re my offer of the loan of head amp and SUT's, regarding the DL S1, it may be I don't have a lack of bass because I'm using a head amp, I've not tried it with the SUT's as yet, or indeed direct into the Firebottle. The bass light thing may be because of folk using SUT's with it and because of it's low output and 30 ohm internal impedance...

I've been using my 103 straight into my Firebottle and it sounds pretty good.

[Floyddroid]

The Denon 103 seems to be very commonly appreciated and a possible good first step into MC? This maybe my next Hifi adventure although I may indeed go for something higher up the MC food chain.

The Denon DL110 is worth a punt too. Heard one recently at Rich B's and i was really impressed. You wouldn't need a SUT either. Just a little more bounce than your 2M black which majors on detail. The 110 is a good all rounder.

[Jimbo]

Cheers Steve everything is under consideration at the moment and the Denon cartridges especially are on my list, might even plumb for the DS-L1! Do you remember how stunning it sounded at NEBO5?

[Floyddroid]

Cheers Steve everything is under consideration at the moment and the Denon cartridges especially are on my list, might even plumb for the DS-L1! Do you remember how stunning it sounded at NEBO5?

Indeed I did. Bare in mind that the system it was being used had to deal with driving a huge expanse and there was no lack of Bass. I would have one tomorrow but they are as rare as rocking horse shit.

[Ali Tait]

I've been using my 103 straight into my Firebottle and it sounds pretty good.

Yeah, I will give it a go, need to rearrange the system to try it though.