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  1. #11
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    Wot Si says...

    Les's PSU is a take on Simons original, which with the new cap I'm running at 20V, significant over the 15V stock but improves things no end.
    Wouldn't want to go much higher, 20V is enough folks.

    So the cap mod to your Young, get a linear PSU (seriously) and sit back knowing you have many K's worth of Dac.
    Heard mine directly compared to a Naim Dac and the dealers face was a picture...ended up putting and XPS on it to show its superiority..and it was different rather than better.
    Honestly, went in with the cash to buy the Naim, came away happy with my Young.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

  2. #12
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    As way of an update, the caps discussed earlier in this thread in post 8 have arrived with me in the post today... so I have three spare if any Young owners want one - free - gratis - no charge First come, first served, so drop me a PM with your full postal address and I'll send them off next week...
    CDP: Primare CD31 Amp: Audio Note Oto SE DAC: M2Tech Young & Van Der Graaf PSU Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots
    Streaming: bespoke Korus server with SOtM soundcard, AudioQuest Jitterbug & Furutech GT2 USB cable
    Speaker Cable: Tellurium Q Black - Interconnects: MS Audio/Klotz MC5000


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  3. #13
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    Three free caps have been posted, so I have one left if any M2Tech Young owners feel the need to try the modification discussed above... First come, first served
    CDP: Primare CD31 Amp: Audio Note Oto SE DAC: M2Tech Young & Van Der Graaf PSU Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots
    Streaming: bespoke Korus server with SOtM soundcard, AudioQuest Jitterbug & Furutech GT2 USB cable
    Speaker Cable: Tellurium Q Black - Interconnects: MS Audio/Klotz MC5000


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  4. #14
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    Now all gone... so those of you who've decided to go ahead and mod your Young DAC, once the work has been done, I'm sure I'll not be the only one interested in your findings
    CDP: Primare CD31 Amp: Audio Note Oto SE DAC: M2Tech Young & Van Der Graaf PSU Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots
    Streaming: bespoke Korus server with SOtM soundcard, AudioQuest Jitterbug & Furutech GT2 USB cable
    Speaker Cable: Tellurium Q Black - Interconnects: MS Audio/Klotz MC5000


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    I've heard the difference this modification made to Garys DAC . I'm sure you're in for a very pleasant surprise if you go down this route .
    Regards
    Brian

    Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment . (Rumi )


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  6. #16
    Join Date: Oct 2008

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    Whats your thoughts Pete so far?

    I'd give the new cap 2 weeks constant run in before you say she's done, but improveements were apparent from the get-go, especially if you ramp up the PSU voltage to more than the standard 15V (the input voltage is determined by the DC coupling cap..the new one is up to 25V )

    I run mine at 20V.

    With the Van De GRaff PSU...it'll change again.
    Shame about the Palmer, but these things happen for a reason.

    No issue with my own Young driver btw, been looking into the Server route as my main digital source the last few days (refitted the SotM usb card and linear psu feeding it...and the results are very interesting indeed.
    USB is the best input for the Young Dac, just needed my new preamp to open up to show it as so.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

  7. #17
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    I've not modded my Young yet Gaz... although I'm none to shabby with a soldering iron, I have a couple of local leads to follow up who'll do it for me... besides, there will be another four AoS members doing the same with their Young's, so it'll be interesting to see how they get on
    CDP: Primare CD31 Amp: Audio Note Oto SE DAC: M2Tech Young & Van Der Graaf PSU Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots
    Streaming: bespoke Korus server with SOtM soundcard, AudioQuest Jitterbug & Furutech GT2 USB cable
    Speaker Cable: Tellurium Q Black - Interconnects: MS Audio/Klotz MC5000


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  8. #18
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    Well... I was up at sparrows fart today, so I took the bull by the horns and replaced the cap myself. It was an easy job, taking no more than 20 minutes from start to finish (yes, making sure + & - were the right way around) and my Young is now on working test as I type... so it'll be interesting to see how it opens up after a couple of weeks use
    CDP: Primare CD31 Amp: Audio Note Oto SE DAC: M2Tech Young & Van Der Graaf PSU Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots
    Streaming: bespoke Korus server with SOtM soundcard, AudioQuest Jitterbug & Furutech GT2 USB cable
    Speaker Cable: Tellurium Q Black - Interconnects: MS Audio/Klotz MC5000


    Come Chill With Me...
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    http://theorbscureddj.blogspot.co.uk
    + play + enjoy + float + dream +

  9. #19
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    Cool.

    Couple of weeks should do it Pete.
    Be interested to hear how the new power supply shapes up too.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

  10. #20
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    Cheers Gaz... there may also be four other independent reports from AoS members undertaking the same modification... so a comparison of notes may well prove of interest, not only to us, but to others who might be considering the Young DAC as an option
    CDP: Primare CD31 Amp: Audio Note Oto SE DAC: M2Tech Young & Van Der Graaf PSU Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots
    Streaming: bespoke Korus server with SOtM soundcard, AudioQuest Jitterbug & Furutech GT2 USB cable
    Speaker Cable: Tellurium Q Black - Interconnects: MS Audio/Klotz MC5000


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