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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldpinkman View Post
    Hi Simon

    K Drive is reliable and Funk's "rolls royce" solution. The VX is a more affordable version (about half price) and at least as good as (ok - plenty better than) the original export motor and electronics. )
    So the original motor doesn't turn the platter at the correct speed. The VX version gets a bit closer to the correct speed and the K drive 'Rolls Royce solution' does actually turn the platter at the correct speed?

    You see, this is why I use a Technics SL1200....
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Richard

    Thanks for the very useful advice. I'll probably go for the K drive. I had not considered a bearing upgrade - that can be something to look forward to in the future.

    Best rgds

    Simon

    PS: Macca - just measured the speed on my LPT-GTi (same PSU and AC motor as the Export-GTi), it came out at 179.5 sec/100 revs = 33.4rpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smedley View Post
    Richard

    Thanks for the very useful advice. I'll probably go for the K drive. I had not considered a bearing upgrade - that can be something to look forward to in the future.

    Best rgds

    Simon

    PS: Macca - just measured the speed on my LPT-GTi (same PSU and AC motor as the Export-GTi), it came out at 179.5 sec/100 revs = 33.4rpm.
    That must sound 'orribly sharp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    So the original motor doesn't turn the platter at the correct speed. The VX version gets a bit closer to the correct speed and the K drive 'Rolls Royce solution' does actually turn the platter at the correct speed?

    You see, this is why I use a Technics SL1200....
    It's why I use a Roksan. Even if it is 0.1 of an rpm slow or fast, it still sounds great. It could do with a dust though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    So the original motor doesn't turn the platter at the correct speed. The VX version gets a bit closer to the correct speed and the K drive 'Rolls Royce solution' does actually turn the platter at the correct speed?

    You see, this is why I use a Technics SL1200....
    Because you like listening to music with a balaclava on - at EXACTLY the right (adjustable) speed presumably. The K-Drive motor is significantly better - quieter and smoother, it could mount on the sub-chassis like the Anni motor. And costs 3 times as much as the VX motor which is perfectly functional in a less exotic deck - if a wee bit less silent and smooth, (although VX is smoother and quieter than the old synchronous motor in the export). If you hold the K-Drive motor in your hand with your eyes shut, you don't know when its running.

    Last edited by Oldpinkman; 31-07-2015 at 18:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Steadman View Post
    That must sound 'orribly sharp
    I'm sure you realise that the error on that time measurement will be about +/- a few tenths of a rev. So could concievably be the most accurate turntable speed ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    So the original motor doesn't turn the platter at the correct speed. The VX version gets a bit closer to the correct speed and the K drive 'Rolls Royce solution' does actually turn the platter at the correct speed?

    You see, this is why I use a Technics SL1200....
    ?? The original does turn the platter at the correct speed, so does the VX and so does the K-Drive.

    The only problem with the guys Export is that the capacitors have died, much like the common Valhalla problem.

    1210s/1200 have problems with age too. Can't see that there is a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    Richard

    As someone who worked in the trade back then, who had to set up many of the turntables the business sold, in my view only the Anniversary represented a quality level of fit and finish re build quality commensurate with selling price. The PT1 and 2 were in my direct opinion - re fit and finish - not and the way examples look now days shows they age very poorly. Yes they sounded good and could hold their own re performance to a degree, but I am sorry the inside was a dogs dinner - in my opinion.
    The ones I've come across look good because people have looked after them. I've had old fruitbox LP12s which haven't and have fallen apart all over the place. The only thing I think goes wrong in fit and finish with a PT1/2, apart from the lid, is the top plate coming off. On the Linn it's bolted, on the PT it's deliberately decoupled. Any bonded decoupling is going to be a weak point over age because of the aging of glue, foam pads in this case. I've never experienced jagged aerolam subchassis myself so I do wonder if your memory is coloured from a particular experience or batch ?

    Once a old deck begins to look shabby (this back in the day as people moved away from vinyl) e.g. from a broken and splitting lid, then that deck is treated with a certain amount of disregard, doesn't matter what deck it is.

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    I've always fancied an Anni. Also an Alphason Symphony and a Towshend Rock Reference. All decks with a strong vision in terms of technical design.

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    Exclamation Time to 'rein-in' the PT/Funk promotion....

    Hi Richard,

    Whilst we appreciate and enjoy your contributions, it's getting to that stage again where I must ask you to scale back on the near-incessant PT/Funk promotion. Almost every thread or post of yours recently contains some reference to the former, and it's now almost getting to the shilling stage.

    If you do wish to act as Funk's official PR man, then as I've said before, I'm happy to discuss trade terms with you, which will then allow to perform that role, 'unmolested', as it were. Otherwise, please find some alternative subjects to discuss - i.e. change the record.

    Cheers!

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