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    Default Speaker opinions - which ones (if any) should I take notice of?

    Looking generally at replacing my TDLs with something more substantial. As budget's an issue, the second-hand market is where I'm concentrating on. I imagine that £250-ish is around what I'm looking to spend (give or take £50).

    Having hunted down a few likely candidates on eBay, I then peruse the web for opinions on each model.

    But is this the way to go? For every "I love these", there's some counter-argument about how lacking in mid-range or bass or top-end the item in question has. Even makes I consider to be very respectable (B&W, for instance) draw sharply conflicting views from all and sundry.

    I'm far too big and ugly to pose the question "Which speaker is best?" (because there is no sensible answer to that), but I really need to ask if I should be taking notice of every negative perception expressed about any speaker I go looking for...or should I rely on the general reputation of a brand?

    Any thoughts?

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    You'll need to have a listen to some yourself or you will just be listening with others ears. See if you can arrange a bake off in your area with some folk that have and willing to bring them along for the event. Supply of food and refreshments will always help
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    Is that a "no", then, Grant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    You'll need to have a listen to some yourself or you will just be listening with others ears. See if you can arrange a bake off in your area with some folk that have and willing to bring them along for the event. Supply of food and refreshments will always help
    Absolutely. There are speakers out there that have had fantastic reviews that I wouldn't give house room, they just don't do what I require (that includes most big Tannoys)

    So only your ears can do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Lawton View Post
    Is that a "no", then, Grant?
    So many variables Phil. type of music, amp, room your preferences etc. list can be exhaustive. Do you like a lot of bass etc. I'd say look for some Kefs coz I like them, but others will say Tannoys. Cellestions. etc.
    Tbh its difficult to know what you like. I am using Kef Cara and they are about right for me and my room at present. I have a set of Tannoy 637's that are really good but perhaps too much for my room. Also have a set of IMF supers that I like too. how about Mission 770's. should be well in your budget. nice speakers those.I just sold a set of 737's and they were mint damn near for 70£ or so. new owner likes them.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Speaker choices and preferences are totally system and environment dependant and of course personal taste comes into play. But I guess an awful sound will be that for anybody. What works in one situation can definitely sound horrible in a different context.

    I'm a bit luckier (or more unfortunate?) than most, having got through an awful lot of equipment, thereby having a fair idea of how a particular speaker (or other item) may sound in my home and on my system, but most people are in the dark I reckon.

    It's not unusual for good speakers to not sound impressive on first listen, but have qualities that show when you've got more used to them. Speakers that immediately 'impress', can turn out to be wearing in the long term.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    What TDLs do you have and what do you like or dislike about them?

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    I bought a pair of SD Acoustics SD1 on eBay for £222. Superb for that money, although probably as big and ugly as you are!

    Also a pair of active Bowers Active Ones for £400 (wouldn't need a power amp with these so you might be able to free up some dosh).

    Both excellent and worth looking out for - much better speakers than you would normally expect for that sort of money, imo.



    Note - both come with a grilles to cover all the gubbins.
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    Thanks to Geoffs advice I have a superb pair of Mordaunt short Pageant 2 sound amazing with my electronic music ! A chap in London is selling these speakers on eBay with the stands from John Lewis 30 years ago ! Mine are 40 years old ! Currently £6 on eBay my god I buy a second pair for the lounge

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatmarley View Post
    What TDLs do you have and what do you like or dislike about them?
    A good starting point.

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