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    Join Date: Oct 2008

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    Default Looking at Bias lighting for my telly...

    Finally getting down to it,
    Know the theory, looking for specific reccy's of what to get if possible!

    Looking for 6500K D65 lighting, or as close to it as possible.
    My Plasmas hard against wall with only about 3" gap to wall.
    So looking at strip lighting I guess?

    Be good to be able to dim the light to get as close to the ideal 10% bias light needed.

    Looked at the VisualChillout kit, but unavailable at the moment, so looking to buy up individual parts.
    Any pointers much appreciated.

    thanks.
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    No AV heads in the room?....
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
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    Not heard about this before, but have had a quick google since reading your OP. I have quite a few fish tank lamps knocking about so will hook up the easiest tonight, it's 2700K so not within the suggested temperature but I'm quite interested to see what it's like.
    Darren.
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    let us know mate, be good to hear what you think.

    Good info here:
    http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/blb.htm
    AC POWER
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    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    I use these self adhesive leds around the back perimeter of my telly
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-New-SMD...item35d35451c2
    Loads available on the Bay and they can be trimmed to size.
    Andy.

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    As I recall this was something Philips introduced and a few others include but I personalty think its a gimmick and serves no real purpose. I have found it distracting when I have seen it and I don't feel there is any need for it.

    My advice save your money and buy a few blu rays.



    Regards Neil

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    Cheers Andy,
    Thinking of pulling the trigger on 2 sets of these:
    http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/Ideal-Lume.htm#panelight

    In your setup, do you have a dimmer wired in?
    Appreciate some specifics mate on how youve got it all wired up?

    I've seen Bias lighting done properly Neil and to me it improved the picture no end, really darkened the blacks and made everything pop, but not in an unnatural way.
    Besides, my lounge is quite dark when watching films and can get a bit of eye strain if Im enjoying a numbuttathon movie session.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Cheers Andy,
    Thinking of pulling the trigger on 2 sets of these:
    http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/Ideal-Lume.htm#panelight

    In your setup, do you have a dimmer wired in?
    Appreciate some specifics mate on how youve got it all wired up?

    I've seen Bias lighting done properly Neil and to me it improved the picture no end, really darkened the blacks and made everything pop, but not in an unnatural way.
    Besides, my lounge is quite dark when watching films and can get a bit of eye strain if Im enjoying a numbuttathon movie session.
    I concede Gary I may have not seen it done right.


    Regards Neil

  9. #9
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    Maybe a bit on the bright side (125W), will let you know how it works out.

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    Darren.
    Listening Room.
    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    Turn Table. Garrard 401, Reso Mat, 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    Pre Amp. Croft Super Micro2. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks.
    Speakers. TBC

    Home Cinema.
    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    DAC/Pre Amp. Denon AVC X3700H.
    BDP/Streamer. Panasonic DP-UB820EB / Apple TV4K.
    Display. Optoma UHD51 / DIY False Black Window Screen.
    Power Amps. 2 x Nakamichi AVP1.
    Front Speakers. DIY Baby Celestion Ditton 66. Surround Speakers. Celestion Ditton 11. Subwoofer. BK Electronics P12 300SB PR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    As I recall this was something Philips introduced and a few others include but I personalty think its a gimmick and serves no real purpose. I have found it distracting when I have seen it and I don't feel there is any need for it.

    Regards Neil
    Agreed. I guess there is a reason cinemas are dark and lack ambient lighting around the screen.

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