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    The Mogami is good and I prefer it to the Klotz.
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    My set up is balanced from cartridge tags to power amps and DAC route as well.
    Appart from my DIY active crossover it is all differential balanced circuits.

    So a shielded twisted pair is the usual method employed, I use Neutrik gold contact XLR's so nothing fancy there.

    I may try the Sommer "CarboKab" though I can't find it on their website and also some Mogami 2534. 1m runs of each to compare with the Klotz and Van Damme I already have. The connectors will cost more than the cable so its just finding the time to make em up and try them.

    I thought I was happy with the Klotz, till I experienced a very different sound from the Van Damme, so I am now curious what the other two will bring to the table.
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    i use it and found it too be a step up from the klotz.
    My System/ Yamaha NS1000M speakers ,Pioneer PLC-590 turntable,Pioneer PA-5000,Alphason HR-100S-MCS,Zeta tonearms,Denon 103SA Cartridge's,Denon HA-500 Head Amp, John Wood KT88 Valve Amp,Sony 700ES Amp,Sony X555ES CD Player, Nakamichi ca5 pre amp ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwin View Post
    My set up is balanced from cartridge tags to power amps and DAC route as well.
    Appart from my DIY active crossover it is all differential balanced circuits.

    So a shielded twisted pair is the usual method employed, I use Neutrik gold contact XLR's so nothing fancy there.

    I may try the Sommer "CarboKab" though I can't find it on their website and also some Mogami 2534. 1m runs of each to compare with the Klotz and Van Damme I already have. The connectors will cost more than the cable so its just finding the time to make em up and try them.

    I thought I was happy with the Klotz, till I experienced a very different sound from the Van Damme, so I am now curious what the other two will bring to the table.
    CarboKab 225 on eBay .

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    Thanks for the links guys,
    I want to try and finalize the interconnects prior to voicing my speakers.
    I've made the final choice for discrete op-amps for the active crossover and power amps, though some are still on route from the States. I want it all in place to do the last tweaking of the attenuators, prior to replacing them with fixed resistor networks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder5 View Post
    CarboKab 225 on eBay .
    Bugger, its from Designacable, just had an order back from them 2 days ago.

    Jamie - Thanks for the heads up.
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    But for a bit more, you get a better cable, and then a bit more than that, you can get a better cable etc.
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    do tell
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    But for a bit more, you get a better cable, and then a bit more than that, you can get a better cable etc.
    Trouble is, for every price point, there are cables that will work well with your equipment and those that work less well.

    It gets quite expensive trying the many options as you work up through the ranks, as recommendations may not suit.

    I'm keeping things reasonably simple (Cheap) for now, as I am in the process of upgrading my Power Amps (x2 Stereo or x4 Mono) and my Pre/Dac.

    I am already getting the best sound I have ever had in my room, the equipment upgrades should take me to another level. So cables will no doubt come back into the equation, to make the most of the changes, though I am not one for spending massively in this area.
    Ken

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    There will always be arguments about cables but bigger differences are made elsewhere. It then just becomes what is worth paying for and what us not. Personally, I believe that cables from Klotz , Van Damme and Mogami all do a highly cost effective job.

    Meanwhile, a friend and I used some mains cable cut from a lawnmower and could hear no difference to the 400 per metre cable he was previously using in his high end system!
    Main system: Sony TTS8000; SME IV; Audio Technica Art1; The Lentek integrated amplifier; SBT; Technics sh-x1000 DAC; Yamaha NS1000M.
    System 2 - SBT; Kinshaw Perception DAC; Denon PMA850 integrated; Kef Reference 103.
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