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    I've asked Arek (Khozmo designer/builder) and he is very much fond of the shunt topology, claiming that it yields great (the best?) sonic results. Hmmm, what should I do?
    System1: Lenco L75 with custom plinth, SLAT, sph bearing, SG4 external power supply + Alfred Bokrand AB-309 tonearm + Denon DL103R (aluminum body) + Well Tempered 12" tonearm clone + Denon DL103R (wooden body), ASR Mini Basis Exclusive HV, Marantz CD6005, LAB12 DAC1 SE+, Hattor BIG passive + active pre, Lab12 Suono power amp, Falcon LS3/5a Gold Badge, LAB12 Gordian, Belden 8428, Black Cat Red Level Triode, LAB12 Knack MkII

    System 2: Roksan Xerxes original (HiFi Inspire plinth) with Maxon ReMax motor + Audiomods Series6 + Ortofon Cadenza Black microridge retipped, ASR Mini Basis Exclusive, Marantz CD6003, Croft Micro25R + Series7R monoblocks (110W/ea), Harbeth SHL5 Plus 40th Anniv.

    System 3: Marantz CD6003, Croft SuperMicroII ('R' spec by Croft, Tesla E83CC in phono)+ Series7, Snell Type EII (with bypass caps, new internal wiring, WBT nextgen 0703Cu), Mark Grant HDX1, Atlas Hyper 3.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by pankon View Post
    I asked Arek and he is very much fond of the shunt topology, claiming that it yields great (the best?) sonic results. Hmmm, what should I do?
    I went for series as it presents a constant load.

    That the the advice given from the guys here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pankon View Post
    ..... what should I do?
    Panos, for the money try one of these before you do anything else, it's a giant killer :

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volume-Re...72.m2749.l2649

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    Many thanks for the advice, Alan. It's just that I need a dual-mono passive preamp with two outputs. And as a matter of fact, earlier today I placed the order for a Khozmo preamp. My dilemma is shunt vs series resistors...
    I will try to match and drive my Croft Series 7R monoblocks and Harbeth SHL5 Plus speakers.
    Last edited by pankon; 25-08-2018 at 06:49.
    System1: Lenco L75 with custom plinth, SLAT, sph bearing, SG4 external power supply + Alfred Bokrand AB-309 tonearm + Denon DL103R (aluminum body) + Well Tempered 12" tonearm clone + Denon DL103R (wooden body), ASR Mini Basis Exclusive HV, Marantz CD6005, LAB12 DAC1 SE+, Hattor BIG passive + active pre, Lab12 Suono power amp, Falcon LS3/5a Gold Badge, LAB12 Gordian, Belden 8428, Black Cat Red Level Triode, LAB12 Knack MkII

    System 2: Roksan Xerxes original (HiFi Inspire plinth) with Maxon ReMax motor + Audiomods Series6 + Ortofon Cadenza Black microridge retipped, ASR Mini Basis Exclusive, Marantz CD6003, Croft Micro25R + Series7R monoblocks (110W/ea), Harbeth SHL5 Plus 40th Anniv.

    System 3: Marantz CD6003, Croft SuperMicroII ('R' spec by Croft, Tesla E83CC in phono)+ Series7, Snell Type EII (with bypass caps, new internal wiring, WBT nextgen 0703Cu), Mark Grant HDX1, Atlas Hyper 3.0

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    Joe,

    if I understand correctly, you just replaced your Alps Black Beauty pots with Khozmo's shunt attenuators? How easy was it? No other mods in your Croft preamp required?
    I am also thinking of doing something similar to my Croft Micro 25 RSLS (Line-only) and replace the inexpensive TOCOS pots (https://www.ebay.com/itm/10pc-Cosmos...-/140413148908) with something more substantial (Khozmo shunt attenuators with z-foil and Takman REY or REX?).

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    I wonder if it's more complex than I think and not just a simple replacement of the pots... Thoughts, please?
    System1: Lenco L75 with custom plinth, SLAT, sph bearing, SG4 external power supply + Alfred Bokrand AB-309 tonearm + Denon DL103R (aluminum body) + Well Tempered 12" tonearm clone + Denon DL103R (wooden body), ASR Mini Basis Exclusive HV, Marantz CD6005, LAB12 DAC1 SE+, Hattor BIG passive + active pre, Lab12 Suono power amp, Falcon LS3/5a Gold Badge, LAB12 Gordian, Belden 8428, Black Cat Red Level Triode, LAB12 Knack MkII

    System 2: Roksan Xerxes original (HiFi Inspire plinth) with Maxon ReMax motor + Audiomods Series6 + Ortofon Cadenza Black microridge retipped, ASR Mini Basis Exclusive, Marantz CD6003, Croft Micro25R + Series7R monoblocks (110W/ea), Harbeth SHL5 Plus 40th Anniv.

    System 3: Marantz CD6003, Croft SuperMicroII ('R' spec by Croft, Tesla E83CC in phono)+ Series7, Snell Type EII (with bypass caps, new internal wiring, WBT nextgen 0703Cu), Mark Grant HDX1, Atlas Hyper 3.0

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    The Superior stereo balance accuracy a good stepped attenuator acheives is; in itself IMHO worth the upgrade, However, I do understand why some would recomend some other types of conventional pots, they all have a sonic impact, you choose your poison etc.
    As for Shunt, or Series, I have tried both over the years, and always come back to the Series type.
    The khozmo Attenuators are exceptional value, with a build quality that is hard to beat at any price!
    Hope this helps.
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    I'm sure Hificollective stopped stocking the TOCOS pots due to channel imbalances.

    The Khozmo is a supreme attenuator, but you may have to reorganise the guts to fit it in. It's massive!

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    Yes, I am afraid the Khozmo attenuator will not fit in the Croft. I am wondering whether there is any other alternative attenuator (to replace the Tocos), that might significantly affect the sound (for the better -)).
    System1: Lenco L75 with custom plinth, SLAT, sph bearing, SG4 external power supply + Alfred Bokrand AB-309 tonearm + Denon DL103R (aluminum body) + Well Tempered 12" tonearm clone + Denon DL103R (wooden body), ASR Mini Basis Exclusive HV, Marantz CD6005, LAB12 DAC1 SE+, Hattor BIG passive + active pre, Lab12 Suono power amp, Falcon LS3/5a Gold Badge, LAB12 Gordian, Belden 8428, Black Cat Red Level Triode, LAB12 Knack MkII

    System 2: Roksan Xerxes original (HiFi Inspire plinth) with Maxon ReMax motor + Audiomods Series6 + Ortofon Cadenza Black microridge retipped, ASR Mini Basis Exclusive, Marantz CD6003, Croft Micro25R + Series7R monoblocks (110W/ea), Harbeth SHL5 Plus 40th Anniv.

    System 3: Marantz CD6003, Croft SuperMicroII ('R' spec by Croft, Tesla E83CC in phono)+ Series7, Snell Type EII (with bypass caps, new internal wiring, WBT nextgen 0703Cu), Mark Grant HDX1, Atlas Hyper 3.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by pankon View Post
    Yes, I am afraid the Khozmo attenuator will not fit in the Croft. I am wondering whether there is any other alternative attenuator (to replace the Tocos), that might significantly affect the sound (for the better -)).
    I spoke with Glenn Croft about this when I was deciding on what preamp to go for. The Croft was a serious contender and I asked if he could fit a Khozmo. He said he could and would do so but never got back with a price so I went elsewhere. What I can say is, in my opinion, it's an absolutely wonderful attenuator and has far surpassed all of my expectations.

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    DACT attenuators will fit in the Croft, I have used these in my own preamps over the years with excelent results.
    Quote Originally Posted by pankon View Post
    Yes, I am afraid the Khozmo attenuator will not fit in the Croft. I am wondering whether there is any other alternative attenuator (to replace the Tocos), that might significantly affect the sound (for the better -)).
    "Today scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality"
    Nikola Tesla



    Its now a conspiracy theory to believe that the Immune system is capable of doing the job it was designed to do.
    A fish is only as healthy as the water its swimming in ! [Dr Robert Young]


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