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Thread: How good is a fully upgraded Technics SL-1210mk2 compared to other high end TT?

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    Default How good is a fully upgraded Technics SL-1210mk2 compared to other high end TT?

    As the title says;

    How good is a fully modified Techy 12xx, with say new PSU, MN Bearing, ETP platter, Isonoe Feet, new arm (Jelco 750D or Origin Live Silver or Funk Firm)…

    compared to say:

    Linn LP12

    JR Transrotor ZET-1

    Rega RP8 with Apheta cartridge

    VPI Classic

    Michell GyroDeck

    Michell Orbe SE

    Avid Diva

    ProJect RPM-10.1



    ALL of these TT obove will cost about the same as a fully modified Technics deck.

    My upgrades so far has been relatively low cost (KAB Fluid Damper, Mains PSU, Achromat 1200, Isonoe). The three next upgrades will be high cost upgrades:
    - Mike New Bearing.
    - Mike New ETP platter
    - Origin Live Silver/ Jelco 750D tonearm/ FX arm

    I was hoping that someone that has heard or own a fully upgraded 12xx, and compared it to or upgraded it to another high end TT could share som input. Hopefully compared it to one of the above.

    Here is a picture of the German made JR Trans Rotor ZET-1:
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    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    More or less that spec Tech compared to my
    LP12, Aro, Lyra Dorian, Valhalla, not Cirkus
    it is better by say 20%.

    When I have a day off and some time I intend to compare both again more fully

    I'd say pop in for a listen but you're some distance away so maybe not
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    Thanks MikeMusic. I have never heard a Linn LP12, but if it is that much better than a fully modded Technics, that is impressive!
    And yes please compare the two. I think alot of members will like to hear your findings.

    It would be great to pop in for a demo. I´ll just take a 1h30m train ride to the airport and take the first plane over

    Often the word "better" is a little difficult to fully understand when it comes to sound quality. That is why I wrote "compared to" instead of "better". How do you think the LP12 is better? What difference in sound??

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    Tech is 20% better than the LP12, sorry if unclear.

    Then there's the ride from Heathrow


    I'm struggling for words as it was many months ago after I modded the Tech.
    It was better in terms of detail I think and total amount of music delivered.
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    Oh, wow. The Technics is better than your LP12!? I´m even more impressed now. I see you have the Oyaide MJ-12 platter. I have the Achromat Funkplatter 1200 with 400 gram record weight. Will the Oyaide be an upgrade from the Achromat you think?

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    Definite.
    The Oyaide a definite step up from the Achromat - which I thought was fantastic sound quality, especially at that price level

    But - before you go spending money .... we have yet to discover for sure if the Oyaide on a Funk Firm is better or worse then the Mike New platter on it's own
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    So the Oyaide is that good. Yes to compare it with the Mike New Platter would be interesting…

    Ok, back ot again

    In Norway one of the most populair TTs is Rega and the RP8 has received great reviews in my country. Has anyone compared the RP8 + Apheta to a fully modded Technics SL12xx??

    I have read alot of post were fully modded Technics are considered to be great turn tables. But how good compared to others. And what would be the differense in SQ??

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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    As most people will gather I don't rate the Lp12 and certainly these days a 20% improvement (always subjective) can be had by spending far less than the full Technics mods cost. This would involve the convenience of buying a properly designed off-the-shelf product from the likes of Mitchel.

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    How good is a fully upgraded Technics SL-1210mk2
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    Hehe, great reply Audio Al

    But how well does it do to others? That is what I want to know

    Turntable 1: Technics SL1210M5G/ KAB PSU/ KAB Fluid Damper
    Turntable 2: Rega P3 (new) Tangospinner & dual belt/ Rega Neo
    Amplifier: Rega Elex-R
    RIAA: Rega Fono mk3 & Schiit Mani
    Speaker: Klipsch RP280f
    Cartridge: Rega Exact & Nagaoka MP-110

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