Jazz Rock Fusion

**Marco** · 29-06-2009, 10:09

I much prefer Shakti with John McLaughlin: both the eponymous title and 'Natural Elements'.

I've got both those albums, and they're superb, and also the Billy Cobham one mentioned, but to me they're quite different and not really comparable

Marco.

**Barry** · 29-06-2009, 10:48

Originally Posted by REM

Surprised no mention yet for Weather Report, pre and post JP, fabulous

Cheers

Hi Ralph,

Jazz Rock as a genre is so nebulous that I didn't think of Weather Report, despite recently expanding my collection (courtesy of TGW).

Does Nucleus 'Elastic Rock' come into the jazz rock genre and what about Colosseum, with Dick Heckstall-Smith? Miles Davis - post 'Bitches Brew'?

Regards

**John** · 29-06-2009, 14:59

Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt

Hi Ralph,

Jazz Rock as a genre is so nebulous that I didn't think of Weather Report, despite recently expanding my collection (courtesy of TGW).

Does Nucleus 'Elastic Rock' come into the jazz rock genre and what about Colosseum, with Dick Heckstall-Smith? Miles Davis - post 'Bitches Brew'?

Regards

I think they all come in the Jazz rock fusion genre
Feel free to add more artists/bands

**REM** · 29-06-2009, 17:35

Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt

Does Nucleus 'Elastic Rock' come into the jazz rock genre and what about Colosseum, with Dick Heckstall-Smith? Miles Davis - post 'Bitches Brew'?

Regards

I would reckon so, especially the Miles, some say it kind of defined the genre but surely you have to include the likes of Soft Machine and J.L. Ponty's 'Cosmic Messenger' album as well. A nebulous genre indeed but as someone once said, jazz, if you have to ask what it is you aint never gonna know!

Thanks for the reminder Barry, just dug out my battered old copy of Valentine Suite, stunning album

Cheers

**The Grand Wazoo** · 29-06-2009, 17:52

A nebulous genre indeed ..........

Never met a genre that wasn't nebulous! That's why I hate them so! Well, that & the fact that they make some people get stuck in a musical rut.

**John** · 29-06-2009, 19:19

Yes tend to agree that genres can be limiting; but a really interesting artist or band will always finds way to explore and bring something new

**The Grand Wazoo** · 29-06-2009, 19:37

Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

......... they make some people get stuck in a musical rut.........

........in the sense of the listener only listening to their chosen genre rather than musicians getting into a rut. I think that, on the whole, genres only exist in the minds of the listener.

Most musicians have far more musically open minds than their fans!!

**REM** · 30-06-2009, 13:06

Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

........ I think that, on the whole, genres only exist in the minds of the listener.

....and in the marketing departments of the record companies...and the music press...

**John** · 30-06-2009, 14:53

Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

........in the sense of the listener only listening to their chosen genre rather than musicians getting into a rut. I think that, on the whole, genres only exist in the minds of the listener.

Most musicians have far more musically open minds than their fans!!

I think one of the best compliments I had was from a very good guitarist who said I had musicians ears to new music Not 100% sure what that ment but thought it was cool
Chris I promise no more genre based over views

**John** · 20-07-2009, 18:14

Here is a great link lots of live Fusion music enjoy
http://www.jazzfusion.tv/bootlegaudio.1205.html

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