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Thread: Quad 33 / FM 3 / 405 & B&W DM//2

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    Default Quad 33 / FM 3 / 405 & B&W DM//2

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    My dad just picked up this lot but i have concerns i'm wondering why theirs an earth lead on the 405 power amplifier & also what does it connect to?. Also was wondering have i connected up right if not please guide me as i will be trying it in the morning & just want to be sure.

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    Dan
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    Oooo Dm2's Can't help you with your Quad question Dan but you are in for a treat once you get those DM2's hooked up to somet, as long as the Coles aren't shot that is, in which case they will sound as dull as ditchwater If all's well your Tannoys will most probably show them the door but I reckon the DM2's may give your 770's a decent run for their money

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    Hi Dave

    The DM2's are sweet as a nut & sound excellent through a denon amp. The quads need a service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman91 View Post
    Hi Dave

    The DM2's are sweet as a nut & sound excellent through a denon amp. The quads need a service.
    The FM3 is still a reasonable tuner and the 303 isn't bad at all when working properly but I wouldn't bother with the 33 if I were you...
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    Yes but we are on 2 different levels i love it end of story each to there own though..i feel the forums has had this debate before....
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    The FM3 is still a reasonable tuner and the 303 isn't bad at all when working properly but I wouldn't bother with the 33 if I were you...
    Looks like a 405 to me but hey ho...

    As with everything hifi, what is heaven for one may sound like tat to A. Nother. As long as A. Nother sticks to what he or she likes then everyone is happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman91 View Post
    Hi Guys

    My dad just picked up this lot but i have concerns i'm wondering why theirs an earth lead on the 405 power amplifier & also what does it connect to?. Also was wondering have i connected up right if not please guide me as i will be trying it in the morning & just want to be sure.

    Lovely Condition.

    Many thanks
    Dan


    Hi Dan,

    Don't worry about the earth lead on the mains plug for the 405, it isn't needed. The 405 will be earthed via the braiding/screen of the audio lead connecting the 405 to the 33 preamp.

    Some people are unhappy with this arrangement and prefer to directly earth the metal work of the 405 (or any other power amp for that matter) directly to the earth pin of the 13A mains plug. In theory this will form an earth loop, but in practice it will cause no problems: I added a supplementary earth wire to the 2-core mains lead connecting my 405 amp to a 44 preamp (whose switched mains outlets were IEC 3-pin types with earth).

    PS From the photos you have connected up the units correctly.
    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by synsei View Post
    Looks like a 405 to me but hey ho...

    As with everything hifi, what is heaven for one may sound like tat to A. Nother. As long as A. Nother sticks to what he or she likes then everyone is happy
    Yes it's a 405-1 (with the silver-grey anodised front heat sink).

    Agree with your comment, except the 405-1 can benefit from a very simple and cheap upgrade by simply replacing the LM301 op-amp with a superior type.
    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Yes it's a 405-1 (with the silver-grey anodised front heat sink).

    Agree with your comment, except the 405-1 can benefit from a very simple and cheap upgrade by simply replacing the LM301 op-amp with a superior type.
    I should have quoted Jez, Barry as mine was a response to his post regarding the 33

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    Quote Originally Posted by synsei View Post
    I should have quoted Jez, Barry as mine was a response to his post regarding the 33
    Ah - but though the 33 preamp design is very much of its time and now sounds dated (as do all preamps of that era, such as the Radford SC22, Leak 'Varislope', Sugden C51 etc.), the Quad 33 is not a bad sounding amp.

    Rather than shell out for a new preamp, I would have the likes of NET or Dada upgrade the Quad 33.
    Barry

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