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Thread: Marco's cleaning process with new vinyl, using an RCM

  1. #111
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    After reading many threads and watching many YouTube vids, I've come to the conclusion that the below link seems to be both very effective and simple ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3WCUH9f-_g

    • No RCM required.
    • No vacuuming - what's left will evaporate
    • No using the sink and running water.
    • In fact no need for distilled water either (just the fluid).
    • No risk of using anything home-brew.



    What do you think?

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    I think, you'll improve the record, but it still wont measure up to the standard you'll reach with vacuuming off the excess fluids and dissolved grit.
    Don't think it'll do any harm though...
    And, i would prefer this method on an old turntable. It's a lot easier when the disc is turning by itself, or manually turned.
    Theres often the argument of "i dont use a platter on a RCM as all the crud from the uncleaned side will infest the freshly cleaned siden on turning over".
    Nahhh! The part of the disc that comes into contact with the occasional dust bug is not where the needle thrives.
    Besides, just swipe the platter off with a moistured microfibre cloth or similar.

    Mike

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    Not a very good method at all. In fact looking at some of the other 'cleaning' vids on utube there are an awful lot of people out there in denial about record cleaning.

    All that method will do is move the crud around the record, the amount that will lift off with the brush will be minimal. Yes it will clean fingerprints and some surface dust away but these things make very little improvement to the sound since it is the debris in the grooves that causes clicks and pops and general background noise. I notice he doesn't give us a before and after listen to the record, unlike the bloke who uses a similar method but with window cleaning spray. (His record is improved but still unacceptably noisy after treatment).

    To properly clean a record you need to suspend all the crud in solution and then vacuum it off. There is no more effective way of doing it apart from perhaps ultra sonic.
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    This is probably as good a place as any to publicly thank Ali tait for the tip-off about the phk rcm. Arrived today. Awesome. Maybe not a piece of furniture like a nitty-gritty but does the job at least as well as the moth I used before.
    The big attraction, apart from the under $200 price tag, and fabulous customer service? It's so tiny. It just tucks out of sight in any cupboard. The moth is a big ugly lump to have in the house.
    And combined with a Dyson hoover the record is dry in one revolution. Very impressed.

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    Very interesting Richard i may have to look into one. However having a big Record cleaning machine is all part of the Hi-Fi Enthusiast Equipment bragging Syndrome innit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    . . . However having a big Record cleaning machine is all part of the Hi-Fi Enthusiast Equipment bragging Syndrome innit?
    Only if you tell everyone you have one and how wonderful it is

    "People will hear what you tell them to hear" - Thomas Edison

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    Timbo, since it's really good for removing (deeply-ingrained) ‘skidders' from adult nappies and/or puke stains from bibs and Baby-Gros [so I’m told], I’m surprised you don’t have one!

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    Tis' on my shopping list for the future if I'm being honest
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    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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